JonTron and Destiny debate immigration and race - *updated*

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If you know, you know.
"but verb you broadcast your shitty opinions to the world"

i don't have 3 million followers

if i had 3 million followers, i'd shut my trap about any subject i don't know shit about, or i'd strive to be inquisitive
You see, he has a platform. That's good. Because then he can either keep it, or demolish it depending on his arguments. If they are strong and valid, he gets to keep it. If they are not robust or false, people can easily point that out. He essentially can destroy himself with his own words.
This is the same reason we can give platforms to questionable personas like Spencer. He can spout his shit and as soon as its questioned, he falls apart. Far more effective than shutting him down because that way he never gets challenged.
Results, he learns something new and if he is a good person, improves his world views. OR he refuses to admit that he is wrong and loses his platform.


 
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I read that and it sounds logical

but then you have to remember people won't even accept truth when it's presented to them

Your entire post goes entirely against the persona people like Trump have managed to obtain where they can spout falsities and be proven wrong, yet his followers either don't care or don't believe it

People are like sheep, as overused as that term is. Having impressionable teenagers just buy into it is probably not helpful.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Having impressionable teenagers just buy into it is probably not helpful.
That is why it is very important to emphasize critical thinking. Regardless, we should not discourage a person from speaking their mind. This is how we grow as intellectuals. Anyone willing should express their ideas, and we as critical thinkers should break them down and figure out how much merit they actually have, then whatever truths or fallacies discovered within them can influence new ideas, so on and so fourth.


 
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Having impressionable teenagers just buy into it is probably not helpful.
That is why it is very important to emphasize critical thinking. Regardless, we should not discourage a person from speaking their mind. This is how we grow as intellectuals. Anyone willing should express their ideas, and we as critical thinkers should break them down and figure out how much merit they actually have, then whatever truths or fallacies discovered within them can influence new ideas, so on and so fourth.
i don't think asking people to educate themselves before they speak their mind on anything is asking THAT much

i really don't


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Having impressionable teenagers just buy into it is probably not helpful.
That is why it is very important to emphasize critical thinking. Regardless, we should not discourage a person from speaking their mind. This is how we grow as intellectuals. Anyone willing should express their ideas, and we as critical thinkers should break them down and figure out how much merit they actually have, then whatever truths or fallacies discovered within them can influence new ideas, so on and so fourth.
i don't think asking people to educate themselves before they speak their mind on anything is asking THAT much

i really don't
Discourse is a method of education.


 
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Discourse is a method of education.
reading is a better one


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Discourse is a method of education.
reading is a better one
Perhaps it is for you, but it may not be the same for everyone else. Especially in a subject with as much subjectivity in it as politics.
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im not sure about the whole pointing out jon as not really being white because he's half-iranian, dude can literally pass as many european ethnicities and he has probably never faced any racial discrimination (and likely never will) so putting him on the same level as really non-white people is kinda weird
one drop rule
should i start announcing myself as a proud POC because of my 25% jewish ancestry

Well you're defenitly not white jewboi


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Whites are becoming a minority in Germany and Sweden.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
Whites are becoming a minority in Germany and Sweden.
You say that like it's a bad thing.


 
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does this stuff even work?
I only read the script from the OP and from that Jontron sounds fairly right. lmao with the labels and shit.


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uhhh...

- korrie
He's not wrong for the most part, but the part that wealthy blacks commit more crime than poor whites just sounds like he's reaching a bit too much.


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There are black christians and black muslims. Black christians, especially the ones that are not on the government welfare seem like any other American. Ben Carson and Ice Cube are cool what they said about Trump.


 
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Jon's statement


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
entertainment personalities shouldn't talk about politics (if they don't usually) because people will always overreact