Is marijuana a gateway drug?

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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
all drugs need to be legal
Heeeeellllll no.

You want weed? Okay.
Cocaine or heroin? You need serious help. That shit should never be legal.
Why shouldn't someone have the right to destroy their body with drugs? Who are you to deny them that right?
Do you really want someone who's on crack driving? Or serving you food?
If drugs make it so that you can't function like a normal human being in society, they shouldn't be allowed. Other people would have to take care of your sorry out of control ass, and no one wants that.
But it's not my place to tell someone that.
Okay, but that doesn't mean it isn't someone else's place to.
No that's exactly what it means.
So, you are of the belief that if someone's mind is impaired nobody should bother to help them, because even though they're not thinking clearly, it's still that person's decisions?
They had to have a clear mind to originally start that drug in the first place.
That would be ignoring Social pressures, Stress, ignorance, etc.

Ignoring those key factors in my opinion would seem incredibly foolish.
It's not my problem if someone is easily pressured.
It's their problem then? Say you run into that person that was pressured into those drugs when they're high off their ass when you're walking down the street one day, and he shanks you and takes your wallet.
Now it would be your problem, correct?

Why not help solve the problem before it hurts others, and for the decent reason of helping another Human being in need?


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
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Thank you. My sources are perfectly valid.

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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
It's their problem then? Say you run into that person that was pressured into those drugs when they're high off their ass when you're walking down the street one day, and he shanks you and takes your wallet.
Now it would be your problem, correct?

Why not help solve the problem before it hurts others, and for the decent reason of helping another Human being in need?

Horrible analogy. No one is asking for shanking to be legal.
I completely agree. Shanking should only be legal if both parties agree to it beforehand and pay a small fee.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I completely agree. Shanking should only be legal if both parties agree to it beforehand and pay a small fee.

Why should they have to pay a fee?
To set up the viewing stands, of course.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Most drug dealers would also go out of business the moment weed becomes legal, seeing as that's the biggest black market right now. And if the law enforcement was more competent, cracking down on criminals selling illegal shit wouldn't be so difficult.

Anyways I'm tired of arguing with you over this.
We're going to disagree no matter what, so whatever. My opinion is that drugs like cocaine and heroin should never be legal, and my reasoning should be obvious enough. I don't care if you feel like it infringes your rights.

Or just keep moving on to the illegal drugs as there will always be a market for them and it is literally impossible for cops to ever win this phony drug war. Also, you realize the hard drugs are used in hospitals and often prescribed to people, correct? They're very dangerous, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't decide what goes into their own body. No one is forcing you to do cocaine, we're trying to force you not to tell others what to do with their lives and it's backed up by the incredible failure of drug prohibition which endangers us all.

Don't care. It shouldn't be legal, especially since it's dangerous.
That's why people aren't allowed to own rocket launchers.

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before you even try to argue that people should be allowed to own rocket launchers, kindly shut the f­uck up
Thing is, you can own a rocket launcher in the USofA.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
All drugs are gateway drugs -

a gateway to not being a boring little shit.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Nuka, plenty of things are dangerous. Should we make fast food illegal? Here's a quote that may teach you something...

"You don't make something illegal for an adult because it may be harmful for a child, otherwise, we'd all be living and acting like children."

You can't make a law regulating human behavior. It comes down to self-control.
So, shanking should be fully legal then? I don't want to limit my human behaviors.


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Then explain how anyone could function as a normal human being in society if all they're allowed to do is get fracked up with extremely addicted drugs that'll destroy their entire lives and prevent them from every having another job again? When money runs out, what is society supposed to do with all these washed up druggies who probably already destroyed whatever relationships they had with their families?

That would imply everyone would go out and just do coke and meth because it's legal, which they wouldn't.  Most people know the effects and stick to alcohol and marijuana.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Nuka, plenty of things are dangerous. Should we make fast food illegal? Here's a quote that may teach you something...

"You don't make something illegal for an adult because it may be harmful for a child, otherwise, we'd all be living and acting like children."

You can't make a law regulating human behavior. It comes down to self-control.
So, shanking should be fully legal then? I don't want to limit my human behaviors.

No one has the right to infringe upon the safety of others, and you're right, laws still do nothing to deter such actions, they are their to hold the person responsible accountable. Big difference between attempting to murder someone and freeingly using a substance in your own body.
Face it, if they didn't want to get shanked they had every chance to avoid it. It was their decision and their fault to walk into that situation. Nobody should be punished for acting in the natural order of things.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Face it, if they didn't want to get shanked they had every chance to avoid it. It was their decision and their fault to walk into that situation. Nobody should be punished for acting in the natural order of things.

Isn't this the "Serious" forum?
Do I look like I'm joking?


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Literally any drug can be considered a "gateway drug." It's a person's choice to delve into the harder stuff. I'm damn certain that, even though I smoke weed and drink alcohol, I will never try cocaine, meth, heroin, etc.


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You do realize there's far more evidence out there that you're forgetting that leads us to believe it's a gateway drug right? It's simply pot head logic to think that smoking anything is harmless. Smoking anything causes cancer.


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No. It's not a gateway drug.

Meth on the other hand...