the Iran deal has so far pissed off house Republicans, made Saudi Arabia nervous about the future of business as usual with the us, and is making Russia nervous about their own geopolitical position. I'm almost incredulous anything this fantastic could have been done intentionally by Mr.Obama.
" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purity
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.
Quote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS
Quote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.Just so you know while that was going on Chamberlain had started work on creating an army. So he was comfortably aware of what was going on. Also Nuclear will never be used by Iran as a weapon and even if they tried they will have at minimum a year to produce one at any of their facilities. Remember all facilities are being monitored and only one of them can enrich anything at this moment. Also within the year that they try to produce one, well they will be stopped quite easily as plans of their facilities will be easily available with the numerous visits. Creation of any new sites will also be easily noticed.So in the end Iran is not like Germany 1939. They have no hope and the longer the peace occurs the more power that is removed from the theocracy. It is slow but people can already notice the changes occurring in the Iranian regime with new governments new laws slowly by slowly being adopted.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:34:32 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.LOL oh it's just to appease the populace? Don't be absurd, Iran is our sworn enemy, they've been chanting for the deaths of America and Israel for years. We shouldn't strike a deal with our enemies, nor trust them, they're far from trustworthy. Unless all that fancy and fun propaganda Iran shows depicting the destruction of the US and Statue of Liberty was just for the hell of it.
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:34:32 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.LOL oh it's just to appease the populace? Don't be absurd, Iran is our sworn enemy, they've been chanting for the deaths of America and Israel for years. We shouldn't strike a deal with our enemies, nor trust them, they're far from trustworthy. Unless all that fancy and fun propaganda Iran shows depicting the destruction of the US and Statue of Liberty was just for the hell of it.How many Iranians have you met per chance?
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:34:32 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.LOL oh it's just to appease the populace? Don't be absurd, Iran is our sworn enemy, they've been chanting for the deaths of America and Israel for years. We shouldn't strike a deal with our enemies, nor trust them, they're far from trustworthy. Unless all that fancy and fun propaganda Iran shows depicting the destruction of the US and Statue of Liberty was just for the hell of it.It is. If they were serious about the extremity of what they say, they wouldn't even have negotiated with the US in the first place.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:38:55 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:34:32 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.LOL oh it's just to appease the populace? Don't be absurd, Iran is our sworn enemy, they've been chanting for the deaths of America and Israel for years. We shouldn't strike a deal with our enemies, nor trust them, they're far from trustworthy. Unless all that fancy and fun propaganda Iran shows depicting the destruction of the US and Statue of Liberty was just for the hell of it.It is. If they were serious about the extremity of what they say, they wouldn't even have negotiated with the US in the first place.Right, just like the Munich Conference of 1938. Whoops.
Quote from: Risay117 on April 07, 2015, 05:37:14 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.Just so you know while that was going on Chamberlain had started work on creating an army. So he was comfortably aware of what was going on. Also Nuclear will never be used by Iran as a weapon and even if they tried they will have at minimum a year to produce one at any of their facilities. Remember all facilities are being monitored and only one of them can enrich anything at this moment. Also within the year that they try to produce one, well they will be stopped quite easily as plans of their facilities will be easily available with the numerous visits. Creation of any new sites will also be easily noticed.So in the end Iran is not like Germany 1939. They have no hope and the longer the peace occurs the more power that is removed from the theocracy. It is slow but people can already notice the changes occurring in the Iranian regime with new governments new laws slowly by slowly being adopted.Right, because having visitors will really stop them from their goals. Goddamn, I can't believe the ignorance I'm hearing, you guys would trust a sociopath and turn your back on them willingly, only to stabbed and act surprised. If Chamberlain was truly aware of what was happening, he would have sought to stop the German encroachment, but he didn't. Instead he gave people a false hope and when war came they got their asses kicked all the way back to Dunkirk and back across the channel. Man his plan really worked, didn't it? We're giving Iran too much trust when they should receive none at all.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:46:27 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:44:42 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:38:55 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:34:32 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.LOL oh it's just to appease the populace? Don't be absurd, Iran is our sworn enemy, they've been chanting for the deaths of America and Israel for years. We shouldn't strike a deal with our enemies, nor trust them, they're far from trustworthy. Unless all that fancy and fun propaganda Iran shows depicting the destruction of the US and Statue of Liberty was just for the hell of it.It is. If they were serious about the extremity of what they say, they wouldn't even have negotiated with the US in the first place.Right, just like the Munich Conference of 1938. Whoops.You seem to think that any form of negotiation with an adversary is like the Munich Conference. I guess it'd be a better idea to go to war then.Why are you negotiating with him?Don't you remember the Munich Conference of 38?
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:44:42 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:38:55 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on April 07, 2015, 05:34:32 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 07, 2015, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: ϟϟDASmlgREICHquickscopeϟϟ on April 07, 2015, 05:19:44 PMQuote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:16:03 PM" We, the German Fuhrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe.My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep. "- British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 1938, "Peace for Our Time" on return from the Munich Conference.But Midge, dirty stinky arabs can't into Nazi war machine and racial purityYouTubeGREAT DEAL, GUYS"Death to America, of course" FUCKING LOLWhen are we gonna bomb these bearded nuns back into the Stone Age.It's all rhetoric to appease their population. Just like the anti-Zionist shtick they have. I doubt that the Mullahs themselves actually believe what they're saying to that extent.The 'Resistance card' can be very effective if played right, and that's what they're doing.LOL oh it's just to appease the populace? Don't be absurd, Iran is our sworn enemy, they've been chanting for the deaths of America and Israel for years. We shouldn't strike a deal with our enemies, nor trust them, they're far from trustworthy. Unless all that fancy and fun propaganda Iran shows depicting the destruction of the US and Statue of Liberty was just for the hell of it.It is. If they were serious about the extremity of what they say, they wouldn't even have negotiated with the US in the first place.Right, just like the Munich Conference of 1938. Whoops.You seem to think that any form of negotiation with an adversary is like the Munich Conference. I guess it'd be a better idea to go to war then.
Never said anything about going to war, I only said there should be no deal with our enemies.
The 1938 Conference should stand as a warning about these sort of things, but nah let's not learn from history.
Let's instead bend over for a nation who wants to see us wiped from the face of the Earth.
Quote from: ANGER on April 07, 2015, 05:49:12 PMNever said anything about going to war, I only said there should be no deal with our enemies. Okay, I guess it'd be a better idea to have them as enemies until the end of time. Cause that'd be good for us and the world, right?QuoteThe 1938 Conference should stand as a warning about these sort of things, but nah let's not learn from history.Where is the chunk of land we're donating to Iran in the hope that they stop nuclear weapon production? You clearly didn't read the contents of the deal. They greatly reduce their nuclear for a partial reduction in sanctions. This isn't appeasement by a longshot.Maybe you should learn your history instead.QuoteLet's instead bend over for a nation who wants to see us wiped from the face of the Earth.There's no bending over going on. But I guess you don't even have the patience to even read the OP before spewing partisan crap all over the thread.
So we should just suddenly call them our friends and hope they don't attempt to attack us, right? Because you would totally just start trusting some dude who hates you and constantly says he wants to kill you, right?
I never said anything about a chunk of land and wasn't comparing the details of the two deals you dipshit. We are appeasing to them because do you honestly believe they'll reduce themselves after they've lied in the past? Ignorance is bliss though, I guess just hoping for a better world will make one.
I read the OP you tard, but you seem upset that I'm making very valid points on trust. This is a bad deal no matter how you try to liberally spin it. Sure, let's just call Iran our friends now. They don't totally want us dead or anything. Nah, that's just bluff talk.
Iran - US Deal
