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If you have to beat your kid, you're a fucking pussy.

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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Figured it kind of deserves it's own thread, so I'm reposting.

I think anybody who has to hit a child to discipline them is a pussy. You're fucking weak person, and don't project an air of authority, so the kid disrespects you. Instead of demonstrating why the kid should listen, or just asserting your authority the right way, you have to beat a fucking child.

It's fuckin' weak, man.

If you were a real man, the kid would respect you without the need for violence.

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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Have you tried raising a child? It doesn't sound like it.

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Quote from: DemonicChronic on September 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM
Have you tried raising a child? It doesn't sound like it.

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I was spanked as a kid. I learned not to do stupid shit because of it

 
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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Quote from: DemonicChronic on September 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM
Have you tried raising a child? It doesn't sound like it.
Well, I just finished being one, and I can tell you now that my mother hitting me never once made me regret something or feel bad, it just hurt and made me lose respect for her. I still did what I wanted, I was just sneakier about it.

Meanwhile, my dad never chose to hit me, and I always listened to what he said, because he always gave me a reasonable explanation.

Now I'm almost an adult, and the effects of the parenting styles on our relationship is clear. My authoritative mother who would hit me or demand my dad do it is a bitch in my eyes. Things are strained and despite living with her, I cannot stand having a conversation with her. I really don't have any respect for her. My dad on the other hand is who I always go to for life advice, and I get along with him great.


I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but if you make your child fear you, when they get big enough that they no longer have to feel fear, they're going to hate you.

 
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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
Why is ilya kovalchuk smoking a cig in your profile picture?
nigga that's Bill Hicks

 
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Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 01:10:35 PM
I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but if you make your child fear you, when they get big enough that they no longer have to feel fear, they're going to hate you.

I'm 23 and I still fear my father. Not really a fear, Like I'm scared to talk to him, more like a fear as I have tons of respect for him. And hate? I love both my parents and I was spanked and hit by the belt all the time. I was a shitty kid.

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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Quote from: Honda Odyssey on September 19, 2014, 01:16:35 PM
Pussies afraid to beat their child were raised by pussies themselves. It's a never-ending cycle of pussies who can't properly raise children.
My mom hit me as a kid.

I'm not going to hit my kid.

I have no respect for my mother because instead of teaching me to be reasonable and showing me why I shouldn't do things, she just hit me.

 
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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 01:10:35 PM
I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but if you make your child fear you, when they get big enough that they no longer have to feel fear, they're going to hate you.

I'm 23 and I still fear my father. Not really a fear, Like I'm scared to talk to him, more like a fear as I have tons of respect for him. And hate? I love both my parents and I was spanked and hit by the belt all the time. I was a shitty kid.
Make up your mind, do you fear or respect him? The two feelings are mutually exclusive.

 
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Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 01:10:35 PM
I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but if you make your child fear you, when they get big enough that they no longer have to feel fear, they're going to hate you.

I'm 23 and I still fear my father. Not really a fear, Like I'm scared to talk to him, more like a fear as I have tons of respect for him. And hate? I love both my parents and I was spanked and hit by the belt all the time. I was a shitty kid.
Make up your mind, do you fear or respect him? The two feelings are mutually exclusive.

I respect him for being a great father and teaching me how to be one as well.

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Spanking children is illegal over here, and people turn out fine.

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Spanking does nothing good, and the only consequences it has are negative.

This is an objective fact.

 
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Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Figured it kind of deserves it's own thread, so I'm reposting.

I think anybody who has to hit a child to discipline them is a pussy. You're fucking weak person, and don't project an air of authority, so the kid disrespects you. Instead of demonstrating why the kid should listen, or just asserting your authority the right way, you have to beat a fucking child.

It's fuckin' weak, man.

If you were a real man, the kid would respect you without the need for violence.

You have to define 'Beat"

If you mean spanking, or swatting their hand, then I disagree. If you mean closed fist punching, back handing, kicking etc... then I agree.

 
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And if you have a daughter.... this could happen

 
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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Every child begins as a blank canvas and it's your duty as a parent to paint them to be a decent human being until they can take over the painting for themselves. Unfortunately for you, everyone in your child's life also has a brush and not all of them are very good artists.
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Spanking, yelling, and other extreme behaviors undermine you as a leader and as a parent. If you demonstrate that you can't control or react to a situation in a way that isn't rooted in spontaneous emotion, you're teaching your kid, or your subordinate, or whoever is the subject of your punishment, that you are too incompetent to deal with it logically or reasonably.

Anyone that has to say that they're in control, is not. Anyone that has to hurt another person to get them to behave a certain way has already failed.


 
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Or maybe she was teaching you not to be an ungrateful little shit, like the brats in supermarkets now who scream like fucking banshees as soon as they don't get what they want, because they know that their parents are too weak to be doing anything.

 
 
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Quote from: DemonicChronic on September 19, 2014, 03:19:50 PM
Every child begins as a blank canvas
That's patently false.

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
No psychological or paediatric institute supports such disciplining.

That's good enough for me to dislike it.

 
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Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 19, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Spanking, yelling, and other extreme behaviors undermine you as a leader and as a parent.

Drill Sergeants aren't leaders?

 
 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 19, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Spanking, yelling, and other extreme behaviors undermine you as a leader and as a parent.

Drill Sergeants aren't leaders?
Soldiers are capable of fully understanding the situation they're in and consenting to it. If they don't like it, they can drop out.

That being said, I'm sceptical of drill sergeants' methods.

 
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Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 19, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Spanking, yelling, and other extreme behaviors undermine you as a leader and as a parent.

Drill Sergeants aren't leaders?
Yelling and swearing has been phased out of Navy, Air Force, and Army boot camps for several years now due to its ineffectiveness. It continues in the Marine Corps because they have such a heavy emphasis on indoctrination in order to allow the Marines to operate calmly under the stress of combat.

But to answer your question, no, drill sergeants and drill instructors aren't leaders. They do not lead recruits, they break them down to be built back up. That's not leadership, that's indoctrination (which I'm not saying is a bad thing). Not to mention that the military is entirely voluntary, and consists of adults. It's just a very poor comparison.
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>Teach children that violence is bad
>Discipline them with violence

Yeah, doesn't make much sense.

 
 
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Spanking kids when they really fuck up or are being openly disrespectful isn't a problem, but that should stop as soon as they turn 10 or so.

 
 
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Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 19, 2014, 04:10:57 PM
Yelling and swearing has been phased out of Navy, Air Force, and Army boot camps for several years now due to its ineffectiveness.
Or so TRADOC would say...

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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 19, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on September 19, 2014, 03:19:50 PM
Every child begins as a blank canvas
That's patently false.

Nigga don't ruin the analogy with technicalities.

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