If Trump was truly concerned about a hacked election, he'd call for another one.

velox · January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM

But I suppose he wouldn't want to risk the job position. If he deeply truly believed that the results were compromised, wouldn't he want a re-election no matter if it was biased against him or in his favor?

And yeah, obviously he doesn't hold the power to announce a new election himself. But it seems from an outsiders perspective lile he keeps complaining about hacks without recommending righting the wrongs.

Sad thing is Clinton would've acted the same probably.

I admit this is an uneducated opinion from me though.

Turkey · January 14, 2017, 07:34:34 AM

Nobody believes the results were compromised. The hack that occurred was of DNC emails.

rC · January 14, 2017, 11:52:24 AM

Quote from: H. T. on January 14, 2017, 07:34:34 AM

Nobody believes the results were compromised. The hack that occurred was of DNC emails.

Tell that to my Trump-supporting friends who are all convinced that Hillary won the popular vote due to voter fraud.

Ian · January 14, 2017, 11:57:31 AM

To be fair, California must be nuked.

Quote from: rc on January 14, 2017, 11:52:24 AM

Tell that to my Trump-supporting friends who are all convinced that Hillary won the popular vote due to voter fraud.

Turkey · January 14, 2017, 11:59:42 AM

Quote from: rc on January 14, 2017, 11:52:24 AM

Quote from: H. T. on January 14, 2017, 07:34:34 AM
Nobody believes the results were compromised. The hack that occurred was of DNC emails.
Tell that to my Trump-supporting friends who are all convinced that Hillary won the popular vote due to voter fraud.

Tell them to talk to my anecdotal Trump-supporting friends who all recognize the legitimacy of the vote results.

rC · January 14, 2017, 03:47:57 PM

Quote from: H. T. on January 14, 2017, 11:59:42 AM

Quote from: rc on January 14, 2017, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: H. T. on January 14, 2017, 07:34:34 AM
Nobody believes the results were compromised. The hack that occurred was of DNC emails.
Tell that to my Trump-supporting friends who are all convinced that Hillary won the popular vote due to voter fraud.

Tell them to talk to my anecdotal Trump-supporting friends who all recognize the legitimacy of the vote results.

Point is lots of people think the election was rigged.

nͫiͤcͫeͤ · January 15, 2017, 03:39:17 PM

the election wasnt hacked the dnc was

all that happened was the truth was exposed

Super Irish · January 15, 2017, 06:08:17 PM

Quote from: ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶦˢ ᶰᶦᶜᵉ ᵇᵒᵃʳᵈ on January 15, 2017, 03:39:17 PM

the election wasnt hacked the dnc was

all that happened was the truth was exposed

Selective truth.

Sure Clinton's shit was shady, but I'd be surprised if Trump had nothing equivalently dodgy to hide. Then again, I'm not sure he is aware of the word "subtlety".

Mr. Psychologist · January 15, 2017, 07:47:05 PM

Quote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 15, 2017, 06:08:17 PM

Quote from: ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶦˢ ᶰᶦᶜᵉ ᵇᵒᵃʳᵈ on January 15, 2017, 03:39:17 PM
the election wasnt hacked the dnc was

all that happened was the truth was exposed

Selective truth.

Sure Clinton's shit was shady, but I'd be surprised if Trump had nothing equivalently dodgy to hide. Then again, I'm not sure he is aware of the word "subtlety".

Given the extent of the smear campaign against him, and the increasingly autistic attempts to discredit him, I doubt there is actually anything left in his closet to be dragged into the light.

Super Irish · January 15, 2017, 07:50:52 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 15, 2017, 07:47:05 PM

Quote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 15, 2017, 06:08:17 PM
Quote from: ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶦˢ ᶰᶦᶜᵉ ᵇᵒᵃʳᵈ on January 15, 2017, 03:39:17 PM
the election wasnt hacked the dnc was

all that happened was the truth was exposed

Selective truth.

Sure Clinton's shit was shady, but I'd be surprised if Trump had nothing equivalently dodgy to hide. Then again, I'm not sure he is aware of the word "subtlety".
Given the extent of the smear campaign against him, and the increasingly autistic attempts to discredit him, I doubt there is actually anything left in his closet to be dragged into the light.

A fair point, shit has been thrown at him since the beginning but nothing sticks for more than 5 minutes.

Won't be the least bit surprised if more shit comes along the way for 4 years (and that will be a barrel of laughs), and what straw it'll be that'll break the camel's back.

Azumarill · January 15, 2017, 08:35:26 PM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · January 15, 2017, 09:21:28 PM

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Quote from: Azumarill on January 15, 2017, 08:35:26 PM
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#ThingsTrumpWouldSay

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Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM

Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM

hacked election

Let me stop you right there

Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails, but whoever it was did not manipulate vote tallies or anything else that would qualify as "hacking the election."

velox · January 16, 2017, 12:01:59 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM

Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Let me stop you right there

Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails, but whoever it was did not manipulate vote tallies or anything else that would qualify as "hacking the election."

Then Trump referring to it as such is a fail in its own right.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 16, 2017, 12:02:44 PM

Quote from: Velox on January 16, 2017, 12:01:59 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Let me stop you right there

Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails, but whoever it was did not manipulate vote tallies or anything else that would qualify as "hacking the election."
Then Trump referring to it as such is a fail in its own right.

One of many

Aether · January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM

Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails

Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 16, 2017, 07:46:56 PM

Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails
Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.

Still not much on that front, as far as I know. The declassified report from 2 weeks ago left many questions unanswered.

Aether · January 16, 2017, 09:04:05 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 07:46:56 PM

Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails
Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.
Still not much on that front, as far as I know. The declassified report from 2 weeks ago left many questions unanswered.

Eh I won't come to a definitive conclusion, but I'm more inclined to believe Julian Assange over the CIA, honestly.

Luciana · January 16, 2017, 11:29:43 PM

Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 09:04:05 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails
Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.
Still not much on that front, as far as I know. The declassified report from 2 weeks ago left many questions unanswered.
Eh I won't come to a definitive conclusion, but I'm more inclined to believe Julian Assange over the CIA, honestly.

It's not just the CIA though. It's like, a shit ton of intelligence agencies, and both parties agree Russia meddled. Just like they're meddling in other countries like Finland.

Aether · January 17, 2017, 12:11:44 AM

Quote from: Luciana on January 16, 2017, 11:29:43 PM

Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 09:04:05 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails
Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.
Still not much on that front, as far as I know. The declassified report from 2 weeks ago left many questions unanswered.
Eh I won't come to a definitive conclusion, but I'm more inclined to believe Julian Assange over the CIA, honestly.
It's not just the CIA though. It's like, a shit ton of intelligence agencies, and both parties agree Russia meddled. Just like they're meddling in other countries like Finland.

Meddled as in 'hacked' the DNC with a simple phishing scam email? I'm still waiting for the evidence to be presented.

Luciana · January 17, 2017, 02:32:56 AM

Quote from: Aether on January 17, 2017, 12:11:44 AM

Quote from: Luciana on January 16, 2017, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 09:04:05 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails
Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.
Still not much on that front, as far as I know. The declassified report from 2 weeks ago left many questions unanswered.
Eh I won't come to a definitive conclusion, but I'm more inclined to believe Julian Assange over the CIA, honestly.
It's not just the CIA though. It's like, a shit ton of intelligence agencies, and both parties agree Russia meddled. Just like they're meddling in other countries like Finland.
Meddled as in 'hacked' the DNC with a simple phishing scam email? I'm still waiting for the evidence to be presented.

Meddled as in gathered information on both Democrats and Republicans. You really don't think if only the alt-righters, who are massive Russian apologists, don't believe it? With consensus from both Democrats and Republicans in an ever partisan landscape, you don't think there is some truth to it? That it's all fake? That Russia never hacks, meddles, or tries to influence things when we've already seen them do it to one nation, and now are trying to do it to others? Especially Finland? No, I guess it isn't true at all, simply because we haven't been giving the proof of some confidential info.

Even when Trump begrudgingly admits it, Putin's ultimate dick rider, people are still convinced Russia didn't do a single thing and it's people just being upset at Hillary losing or something. And before you jump to that conclusion, no one is saying these hacks are what directly lead to Trump winning. He'd have won regardless.

Aether · January 17, 2017, 11:37:50 AM

Quote from: Luciana on January 17, 2017, 02:32:56 AM

Quote from: Aether on January 17, 2017, 12:11:44 AM
Quote from: Luciana on January 16, 2017, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 09:04:05 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: Aether on January 16, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on January 16, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Velox on January 14, 2017, 05:14:27 AM
hacked election
Russia possibly interfered with intrusions into the DNC and John Podesta's emails
Has this been proven yet? Has the CIA released the evidence? I really want to see it.
Still not much on that front, as far as I know. The declassified report from 2 weeks ago left many questions unanswered.
Eh I won't come to a definitive conclusion, but I'm more inclined to believe Julian Assange over the CIA, honestly.
It's not just the CIA though. It's like, a shit ton of intelligence agencies, and both parties agree Russia meddled. Just like they're meddling in other countries like Finland.
Meddled as in 'hacked' the DNC with a simple phishing scam email? I'm still waiting for the evidence to be presented.
Meddled as in gathered information on both Democrats and Republicans. You really don't think if only the alt-righters, who are massive Russian apologists, don't believe it? With consensus from both Democrats and Republicans in an ever partisan landscape, you don't think there is some truth to it? That it's all fake? That Russia never hacks, meddles, or tries to influence things when we've already seen them do it to one nation, and now are trying to do it to others? Especially Finland? No, I guess it isn't true at all, simply because we haven't been giving the proof of some confidential info.

Even when Trump begrudgingly admits it, Putin's ultimate dick rider, people are still convinced Russia didn't do a single thing and it's people just being upset at Hillary losing or something. And before you jump to that conclusion, no one is saying these hacks are what directly lead to Trump winning. He'd have won regardless.

I'm just skeptical, sorry. As I've stated already, I won't come to any definitive conclusion, and I'm waiting to see the evidence presented.

I'm not sure why you're conflating my point of view with, "There's no way it happened."

Ian · January 17, 2017, 03:05:54 PM

In the defense of those individuals, there are a LOT of desperate people that will latch onto anything without proof to destroy Trump. They could get a piece of cardboard covered in crayon saying Trump lynches black people every night while shitting on a portrait of President Obama and there would be people who would believe it without proof. The complete crock of shit that is #GoldenShowerGate is perfect proof of that. Still zero evidence and people are praying it sticks (protip: It wont).

Quote from: Luciana on January 17, 2017, 02:32:56 AM

people are still convinced Russia didn't do a single thing and it's people just being upset at Hillary losing or something.