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Quote from: Gaara444 on March 22, 2016, 03:24:09 AM
>Hypocritical rhetoric should be posted everywhere

Lol okay.

Quote from: CIS on March 22, 2016, 12:43:58 AM
This should be posted everywhere.

How is Flee being hypocritical? He may be a little sensational but that's it.

 
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Criticizing Trump for his use of Rhetoric and appealing to emotions when all that post was is Rhetoric and appealing to emotions? That's hypocritical.

Quote from: CIS on March 22, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
How is Flee being hypocritical? He may be a little sensational but that's it.

 
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Quote from: Gaara444 on March 22, 2016, 06:55:49 PM
Criticizing Trump for his use of Rhetoric and appealing to emotions when all that post was is Rhetoric and appealing to emotions? That's hypocritical.

Quote from: CIS on March 22, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
How is Flee being hypocritical? He may be a little sensational but that's it.

No, it wasn't just rhetoric and appealing to emotions. There was actual truth in the post.

 
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>Calling out rhetoric against Trump means you support him.

I think the man is stupid as pig shit, but what I say will ultimately fall on deaf ears, if I'm not with you than I'm obviously with Trump right?

Quote from: challengerX on March 22, 2016, 07:21:26 PM
Return of the GOP manchild

>Complains about rhetoric
>Uses rhetoric
>Somehow it's still okay because what was said is true

That's not the point, the point is the post used an appeal to emotions which is the very thing that was complained about in the post. It is objectively hypocrisy.

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No, it wasn't just rhetoric and appealing to emotions.
Last Edit: March 22, 2016, 07:38:06 PM by Gaara444

 
 
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So it's wrong to expect someone to follow their own expectations they set out for other people? Why is it okay when someone who hates Trump use broad persuasive arguments but not himself? Because what they say is ultimately better for people? The answer is it isn't, don't tell someone to stop smoking when you have a cigarette in your hand and you're blowing hot air into their face.

Quote from: challengerX on March 22, 2016, 07:37:12 PM
I just think you're being a big baby about this.

 
 
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I like how both you and CIS completely ignored the problem and said "Well I agree with Flee so it's okay to be hypocritical". Please stand by your standards a bit more.

Quote from: challengerX on March 22, 2016, 07:48:32 PM
Yeah Flee isn't wrong though.

 
 
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Yes he was, but ultimately you're going to deny it because whatever. He literally complained about Trump using rhetoric, it's right there in his fucking post (provided he doesn't edit it out). Then goes on to use strong, persuasive language to get his point across, using insults to his character. It does not matter that they're true, that is still rhetoric, the very thing he complained about.

It's literally a situation of "It's okay when I do it." If you can't stand by your own standards, why should anyone stand by them as well?

Quote from: challengerX on March 22, 2016, 08:10:04 PM
He wasn't being hypocritical. At all.
Last Edit: March 22, 2016, 08:17:07 PM by Gaara444

 
 
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Rhetoric: language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

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Because Trump is a madman running on an extremely populist, moronic and hateful rhetoric. He does nothing but play on the misguided fears, mistrust and doubts of the poorly educated, easily manipulated and often downright stupid and bigoted groups of society who are blinded by "the hype" and fall for the endless series of empty buzzwords, vague promises and unsubstantiated claims.

Everything underlined can be defined as rhetoric, and that's being generous with JUST the first paragraph. Once again, you can say something true and still have it be rhetoric, but half of what was underlined was just subjective buzzwords (another thing he bitched about but used in his own arguments as well, go figure).

Quote from: challengerX on March 22, 2016, 08:37:19 PM
He wasn't using any rhetoric. Calling out Trump's bullshit and fascism isn't rhetoric.
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Quote from: Gaara444 on March 22, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
Everything underlined can be defined as rhetoric
Everything in politics is rhetoric; I think when people are calling Trump out for his use of "rhetoric", they mean his use of certain but ultimately unsubstantive language. Calling out Trump's rhetoric is just a proxy for calling out his lack of genuine ideas.

 
 
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I saw something I saw as pretty interesting that Flee said.
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Empathy, tolerance and support are reserved only and exclusively for those who look, think and act exactly the way the other far right and conservative crowd does
I find that funny because that is exactly how the left behaves:

- Don't support black lives matter? BIGOT
- Don't entirely agree with my views about how women are oppressed in the U.S.? SEXIST

The left is just as quick as the right to negatively label people for not agreeing with them.  Don't make it sound like it's only the right that does this sort of thing.

 
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You don't know me affiliation, way to try and direct the problem onto something else, I have stated numerous times I don't support Trump, once even in this thread. Trump is what happens when you cross Char Aznable with a cabbage patch kid. But that means fuck all to you, and your sports team mentality on Trump. I could defend the man just taking a fucking shit in the bathroom and you'd claim I support him. Knock the fuck off with that.

And your last claim shows you still don't see the problem. "It's okay when other candidates use rhetoric, it's okay when we use rhetoric, it's NOT okay if he uses rhetoric." He could tweet right
now how much he wants to kill X race, that's not the issue with Flee's post. You keep trying to dodge the issue and make this argument be about something it isn't.

Quote from: challengerX on March 23, 2016, 07:17:08 AM
Let's stop beating around the bush. You're right wing. That's the only reason you're attacking Flee's post.

And on top of that, you're doing a very shitty job of attacking his post. Trump is playing on people's fears. The shit he says is moronic. "We're gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it ahyuckyuck".

Get a grip bro.

 
 
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Quote from: ??? on March 22, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
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It's safe to say that ship has sailed.

 
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Quote from: Verbatim on March 23, 2016, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: ??? on March 22, 2016, 06:56:49 PM
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It's safe to say that ship has sailed.
it isn't over for sanders. He just won Idaho and Utah by a landslide and got some delegates in Arizona. The next states in the primaries pretty much favor Sanders. He's going to have to do very well to catch up to Clinton, but it's definitely possible.

 
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Everyone is waiting for that first one to close the borders. That could be Trump. Everyone else would follow.

 
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