What are you talking about, PSU? Obummer's presidency has been a disaster.
Quote from: PSU on March 18, 2016, 11:33:11 AMprotest illegally....And here I thought this was Amurica
protest illegally....
People getting butt hurt over Benghazi which has nothing proven wrong yet, but completely like to forget the president before sent 2,000+ american soldiers to die in a war that served no purpose whatsoever.Gotta love double standards.
Quote from: Tsirist on March 18, 2016, 12:15:31 PMQuote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 18, 2016, 11:36:17 AMQuote from: Tsirist on March 18, 2016, 11:21:29 AMI don't want to have to vote for Clinton but it's hard for me to justify voting for someone who seems to incite violence among Americans right here.Politics are simply a socially accepted form of violence. Personally, I don't see why the notion of inciting violence is seen as so immoral. Every single policy enforced is violent. Does pretending otherwise make it okay?Of course, there are stupid ways and reasons to openly incite violence. But there are also very smart ways to do it.Don't disagree with the first part at all.I think Trump's approach is stupid though.Quote from: PSU on March 18, 2016, 11:33:11 AMYes because he told Bernie supporters and BLM to come to his rallies and protest illegally....Should every crime be responded to with physical violence in your opinion?Yes
Quote from: Yulius Kaisar on March 18, 2016, 11:36:17 AMQuote from: Tsirist on March 18, 2016, 11:21:29 AMI don't want to have to vote for Clinton but it's hard for me to justify voting for someone who seems to incite violence among Americans right here.Politics are simply a socially accepted form of violence. Personally, I don't see why the notion of inciting violence is seen as so immoral. Every single policy enforced is violent. Does pretending otherwise make it okay?Of course, there are stupid ways and reasons to openly incite violence. But there are also very smart ways to do it.Don't disagree with the first part at all.I think Trump's approach is stupid though.Quote from: PSU on March 18, 2016, 11:33:11 AMYes because he told Bernie supporters and BLM to come to his rallies and protest illegally....Should every crime be responded to with physical violence in your opinion?
Quote from: Tsirist on March 18, 2016, 11:21:29 AMI don't want to have to vote for Clinton but it's hard for me to justify voting for someone who seems to incite violence among Americans right here.Politics are simply a socially accepted form of violence. Personally, I don't see why the notion of inciting violence is seen as so immoral. Every single policy enforced is violent. Does pretending otherwise make it okay?Of course, there are stupid ways and reasons to openly incite violence. But there are also very smart ways to do it.
I don't want to have to vote for Clinton but it's hard for me to justify voting for someone who seems to incite violence among Americans right here.
Yes because he told Bernie supporters and BLM to come to his rallies and protest illegally....
Vote for Gary Johnson instead
Who would your ideal candidate be?
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 18, 2016, 12:18:33 PMVote for Gary Johnson instead Libertarianism is a bigger meme than Trump.
Quote from: Dan on March 18, 2016, 08:09:09 PMQuote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 18, 2016, 12:18:33 PMVote for Gary Johnson instead Libertarianism is a bigger meme than Trump.Yeah... It's a shame that the kids these days are just in it for the drugs and gay sex.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 18, 2016, 04:57:15 PMQuote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 18, 2016, 12:18:33 PMVote for Gary Johnson insteadNo, thoughWho would your ideal candidate be?
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 18, 2016, 12:18:33 PMVote for Gary Johnson insteadNo, though
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 18, 2016, 01:09:43 PMWhat are you talking about, PSU? Obummer's presidency has been a disaster.It hasn't been that bad. Not as bad as people said it was going to be.
Quote from: PSU on March 18, 2016, 10:30:03 AMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2016, 09:06:34 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 18, 2016, 08:49:13 AMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2016, 07:34:47 AMThat sounds like an absolutely terrible idea.PM me if you have a better idea.No need for a PM. The better idea is to vote for literally any candidate that isn't Trump.Why exactly?I just could never bring myself to vote for a criminal who got our soldiers straight up murdered like Hillary. Even if I was a huge liberal, I would have a hard time voting for her.Because Trump is a madman running on an extremely populist, moronic and hateful rhetoric. He does nothing but play on the misguided fears, mistrust and doubts of the poorly educated, easily manipulated and often downright stupid and bigoted groups of society who are blinded by "the hype" and fall for the endless series of empty buzzwords, vague promises and unsubstantiated claims. Trump is not going to make your country great again. He is going to do exactly what many conseratives always feared but now so eagerly and hypocritcally support just because they won't be on the receiving end first. The man will erode rights, silence opposition, limit your speech and the press, twist facts and take harsh measures against everyone the far white, conservative and right wing perceives as "the other". He will and already is promoting sickening degrees of hate and hostility against everyone and everything different, with footage of his rallies making me worry about the return of fascism in a Western developed nation. Rather than make a case for himself, he thrives on mindlessly attacking others and running them into the ground through slander and slinging shit instead of proper debates and actual plans or solutions. Trump's campaign runs on a short list of things that can be very powerful and dangerous if used by those capable of manipulation. Hate, stupidity, mistrust, lies, populism and the idea that blaming a vague scapegoat despite all the evidence to the contrary will make things better for a select few while eagerly casting aside things like human rights, compassion, empathy and tolerance. These simple things and the manipulation of those not intelligent or educated enough to see through this and those not capable enough to see that their qualms are being exploited are the cornerstones of Trump his campaign. Hillary is far from perfect herself, but she is without doubt the lesser of two evils. Trump is a joke. A mockery of a fundamentally flawed political system that should've ended months ago to demonstrate to your society how wrong things are going. The rest of the world is looking at the US with disgust, and it's well beyond the point of "oh silly America is at it again". This is a serious and quite dangerous. And despite the fact that my faith in the American people has dropped even more during these elections, I genuinely hope people will realise how much of a disaster Trump would be and vote against him even if it means putting Hillary in office.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2016, 09:06:34 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 18, 2016, 08:49:13 AMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2016, 07:34:47 AMThat sounds like an absolutely terrible idea.PM me if you have a better idea.No need for a PM. The better idea is to vote for literally any candidate that isn't Trump.Why exactly?I just could never bring myself to vote for a criminal who got our soldiers straight up murdered like Hillary. Even if I was a huge liberal, I would have a hard time voting for her.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 18, 2016, 08:49:13 AMQuote from: Flee on March 18, 2016, 07:34:47 AMThat sounds like an absolutely terrible idea.PM me if you have a better idea.No need for a PM. The better idea is to vote for literally any candidate that isn't Trump.
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2016, 07:34:47 AMThat sounds like an absolutely terrible idea.PM me if you have a better idea.
That sounds like an absolutely terrible idea.
This should be posted everywhere.
If I have to end up picking between Trump and Clinton
