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My tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school.
Why the fuck not?
if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fucked
I'm really struggling as to why I should care. Just because you get a degree in what the fuck ever doesn't mean that's the only career path you can take. Fuck this logic, I'm getting so sick of it.


 
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And fuck this notion that college is only for creating job prospects.

I'd love to create a society where people can study their passions (ie. whatever the FUUUUUCK they want) without having to worry about some dumbfuck job. I'd love to just have a free institution where people can go and learn about shit that they enjoy, because learning shit is really the most valuable goddamn thing on this piece of shit planet.


 
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yeah but all career paths are going to be fucked if the college degree becomes so readily available. Its simple logic: If everyone had a Lamborghini that Lamborghini is suddenly not going to be worth very much
Lamborghinis aren't worth anything anyway. Again, I don't give a fuck about something's "worth". Not even a little bit. The fact is, not having a fucking degree is still worse than having one. There are very few alternatives.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
And fuck this notion that college is only for creating job prospects.

I'd love to create a society where people can study their passions (ie. whatever the FUUUUUCK they want) without having to worry about some dumbfuck job. I'd love to just have a free institution where people can go and learn about shit that they enjoy, because learning shit is really the most valuable goddamn thing on this piece of shit planet.
Well... you are on the internet.
Go learn things.


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My tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school.
Why the fuck not?
if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fucked
I'm really struggling as to why I should care. Just because you get a degree in what the fuck ever doesn't mean that's the only career path you can take. Fuck this logic, I'm getting so sick of it.
yeah but all career paths are going to be fucked if the college degree becomes so readily available. Its simple logic: If everyone had a Lamborghini that Lamborghini is suddenly not going to be worth very much

it'd still be a damn fine looking car anyway.


 
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well in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is important
It's STILL worth more than no degree at all.


 
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Well... you are on the internet.
Go learn things.
Well, you see, that's not gonna work for a lot of people, for many reasons. It's difficult to know where to go because information isn't streamlined like it is in a classroom. You don't get the person-to-person learning experience you do on the Internet (not really an issue for me, but whatever). And so on.


 
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well in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is important
It's STILL worth more than no degree at all.
not to an employer in this fantasy you're proposing
Then employers are dumbfucks. Excellent--we've identified the problem. Educate employers and tell them that degrees aren't worthless just because a lot of people have them, because that's shitty capitalist fuck logic that doesn't apply in any rationally-constructed society.

Teach employers that having a degree means that this person knows how to work, and someone WITHOUT a degree, who doesn't have a degree only because someone called "Slash" over the Internet told them not to do it, lest they oversaturate the market, that he's not fit for the job, because he doesn't have a goddamn degree.

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well in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is important
It's STILL worth more than no degree at all.
not to an employer in this fantasy you're proposing

Verb is not proposing a capitalist society


 
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well in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is important
It's STILL worth more than no degree at all.
not to an employer in this fantasy you're proposing
Then employers are dumbfucks. Excellent--we've identified the problem. Educate employers and tell them that degrees aren't worthless just because a lot of people have them, because that's shitty capitalist fuck logic that doesn't apply in any rationally-constructed society.

Teach employers that having a degree means that this person knows how to work, and someone WITHOUT a degree, who didn't get a degree because someone called Slash over the Internet told them not to do it, lest they oversaturate the market, that he's not fit for the job, because he doesn't have a goddamn degree.

fuck
so let's say you're an employer and you have one open position and you get 15 people that all have the same degrees apply to the job

what do you do?
Devise a test to measure their capabilities.
Have them temporarily work for free to see who performs the best.


 
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so let's say you're an employer and you have one open position and you get 15 people that all have the same degrees apply to the job

what do you do?
I pick one.



 
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Devise a test to measure their capabilities.
Have them temporarily work for free to see who performs the best.
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i mean yeah, this is what i'd do, to elaborate

but it's really that fucking simple


 
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Devise a test to measure their capabilities.
Have them temporarily work for free to see who performs the best.
you do realize how inefficient of a system that is right?
Apparently not, because it sounds like a kick-ass system to me.

At the end of the day, I'd pick somebody. Chances are, there's no wrong choice, because they all have degrees.
It doesn't really matter who I pick, does it?


 
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you guys just want to get your degrees for free then live the rest of your lives for free while you depend on the government to provide you a comfortable life for doing nothing?
No, everyone should work. But no one should have to worry about it, either--and you shouldn't just starve and die if you are struggling to find yourself a stable income.


 
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Those other people need a job and income.
If I could hire them all, I so would.

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It shows you've never worked anywhere before. Someone can have their PhD and still be a shitty employee. There's a lot that factors into a good employee besides their education level.
See, this is what I fucking hate.

"There's a lot that factors into a good employee besides their education level."

What are those factors?

"There's a lot of career paths you can take that don't require a degree."

What are those career paths?

there's gotta be some form of population control

survival of the fittest
I'm all for population control, but this is retarded. And cruel, and inhumane. Such is the capitalist agenda.


 
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My tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school.
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if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fucked

there needs to be a cost attached to a degree

That cost should not put someone in debt for 10-20 years afterwards, while they also work to become a contributor to the overall economy.


 
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character qualities like how polite you are, how hard of a worker you are (there are lazy people who still managed to get their PhD believe it or not), punctuality, etc.
::)

How about something I can actually put on a résumé. Like a degree.
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the oil field, construction, mostly blue collar shit but its blue collar for a reason
Is that it? What if I have no interest in working in any of those fields?

Because they're, ya know, hazardous as fuck?


 
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My tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school.
Why the fuck not?
if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fucked

there needs to be a cost attached to a degree

That cost should not put someone in debt for 10-20 years afterwards, while they also work to become a contributor to the overall economy.
its entirely possible to get a degree without getting into a monumental amount of debt. You don't need to go to NYU to get a degree

I'm going to a standard four year public institution - my average debt a year is around five to six thousand dollars, without factoring in other costs that arise with being at the school. For a four year degree, my debt is going to be somewhere between 20-24 thousand, and that's not uncommon for the standard four year school.

Of course I could done a 2+2 program, however that would have wasted more time and money in the long run, as most of my general education requirements were complete. There is also the point to be made that there are many in extreme poverty can't afford to even attend a basic community college - these are the people who go on to work those menial "burger flipper, retail" jobs that are constantly told that they should just go to college to make more money.

College prices continue to go up - and the very bottom of our economy gets more and more pushed out, struggle, and told to suck it up and put themselves in unpayable debt.