I hope you guys aren't actually voting for Bernie "reddit" Sanders

 
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I think the GOP is at least smart enough to recognize this.

~ 40% still think that President Obama either is a Muslim, or wasn't born in the United States.

Don't give their base too much credit.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
like, you don't list a long series of great, wonderful things and then say "why do you want this"
Because they're literally all bullshit.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I think the GOP is at least smart enough to recognize this.

~ 40% still think that President Obama either is a Muslim, or wasn't born in the United States.

Don't give their base too much credit.
Yeah yeah, and I'm sure there's plenty of statistics that I could pull up to show that Democrats are disconnected from reality too.


 
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I think the GOP is at least smart enough to recognize this.

~ 40% still think that President Obama either is a Muslim, or wasn't born in the United States.

Don't give their base too much credit.
Yeah yeah, and I'm sure there's plenty of statistics that I could pull up to show that Democrats are disconnected from reality too.

Please feel free


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
and the very bottom of our economy gets more and more pushed out, struggle, and told to suck it up and put themselves in unpayable debt.
That's just not true; there were evidence of credit constraints for ~4pc of the population prior to federalisation, but that phenomenon hasn't survived. If there's an issue with student debt post-hoc, it's the fact you can't declare bankruptcy on them.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
You can piss on socialism all you want--there's no way you can make capitalism look appealing.


 
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and the very bottom of our economy gets more and more pushed out, struggle, and told to suck it up and put themselves in unpayable debt.
That's just not true; there were evidence of credit constraints for ~4pc of the population prior to federalisation, but that phenomenon hasn't survived. If there's an issue with student debt post-hoc, it's the fact you can't declare bankruptcy on them.

Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?

You can piss on socialism all you want--there's no way you can make capitalism look appealing.


(Not defending Verb's point), but to me, this image only shows that the rise of capitalism hasn't helped reduce the number of people in severe poverty (Which still hovers around 1 billion) - it does show a reduce in the percentage as more and more people are born into capitalist nations (Or those nations convert throughout the 1800's to early 1900's) and generally do well.
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?
Both, IIRC.

(Not defending Verb's point), but to me, this image only shows that the rise of capitalism hasn't helped reduce the number of people in severe poverty (Which still hovers around 1 billion) - it does show a reduce in the percentage as more and more people are born into capitalist nations (Or those nations convert throughout the 1800's to early 1900's) and generally do well.
It's actually quite an interesting graph; a lot of the reduction in poverty has come from (as you say) people being born into capitalist nations, but there has been genuine development since the 1970s in both China and India which has been responsible for the genuine decline of poverty. Even if this kind of "genuine" development hadn't occurred, we would still find ourselves in a world with an economic system capable of sustaining living standards unimaginable only a century ago.

The stubbornness of the 'bottom billion' mostly arises from population growth in Africa.


 
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Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?
Both, IIRC.

I'd like to see the source.

It's actually quite an interesting graph; a lot of the reduction in poverty has come from (as you say) people being born into capitalist nations, but there has been genuine development since the 1970s in both China and India which has been responsible for the genuine decline of poverty. Even if this kind of "genuine" development hadn't occurred, we would still find ourselves in a world with an economic system capable of sustaining living standards unimaginable only a century ago.

The stubbornness of the 'bottom billion' mostly arises from population growth in Africa.

Interesting


 
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You can piss on socialism all you want--there's no way you can make capitalism look appealing.

Thank you for helping my point. See how that red part exists? It shouldn't exist.

Nothing about this makes capitalism look appealing in any way whatsoever. In fact, it makes me hate it even more. Thank you.
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
You can piss on socialism all you want--there's no way you can make capitalism look appealing.

Thank you for helping my point. See how that red part exists? It shouldn't exist.

Nothing about this makes capitalism look appealing in any way whatsoever. In fact, it makes me hate it even more. Thank you.
We'd all be in the red part if we lived in a global socialist world.


 
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Rhetoric.

Yeah, no one would ever have any money, sure.

Because we'd abolish money.
We'd get paid in real wealth.
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Truth.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Thank you for helping my point. See how that red part exists? It shouldn't exist.

Nothing about this makes capitalism look appealing in any way whatsoever. In fact, it makes me hate it even more. Thank you.
Hey, if you want to hate capitalism on the basis of some utterly ridiculous notion of how economic development ought to occur, then fine. I just think it's a stupid lens through which to view economics, and it doesn't accomplish anything.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
We'd get paid in real wealth.
What does that even mean?


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?
Both, IIRC.

I'd like to see the source.
WSJ actually had a piece on it pretty recently.


 
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Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?
Both, IIRC.

I'd like to see the source.
WSJ actually had a piece on it pretty recently.

Is there a way around the pay wall?


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Goods.
Which is utterly impractical; the point of money is that it is fungible, it represents the goods and services you can consume with it.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?
Both, IIRC.

I'd like to see the source.
WSJ actually had a piece on it pretty recently.

Is there a way around the pay wall?
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=White+house+floats+bankruptcy+process+for+some+student+debt+WSJ&tbm=nws

Click the top link, I think that may work. If not, I'm pretty sure the paywall can be bypassed in incognito browsing.


 
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Is that in reference to public, private, or both types of loans?
Both, IIRC.

I'd like to see the source.
WSJ actually had a piece on it pretty recently.

Is there a way around the pay wall?
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=White+house+floats+bankruptcy+process+for+some+student+debt+WSJ&tbm=nws

Click the top link, I think that may work. If not, I'm pretty sure the paywall can be bypassed in incognito browsing.

Interesting.

It would never pass Congress, but interesting.


 
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Goods.
Which is utterly impractical; the point of money is that it is fungible, it represents the goods and services you can consume with it.
It's incredibly easy to call something we've never tried impractical.

The existence of rationing makes it seem a little less impractical to me.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
The existence of rationing makes it seem a little less impractical to me.
The whole reason we have a price mechanism is because, informationally, it's far superior to some kind of governmental rationing system.


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I hope Bernie is elected.

So I can quit my job and have everyone else pay for all my stuff. I'm tired of all my money going to the government and in turn to people who made poor life decisions.


 
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off-topic, but i didn't know you like pokemon

The whole reason we have a price mechanism is because, informationally, it's far superior to some kind of governmental rationing system.
Before I read this--superior in what ways? Don't say "all of them."

Because I think can try to argue that rationing is logically superior, if not logistically superior.


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I particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.


 
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I particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.

Whether or not you like Sanders, you surely must agree that his plans and initiatives would be sweeping changes to how the government works and operates in our day to day lives


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I particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.

Whether or not you like Sanders, you surely must agree that his plans and initiatives would be sweeping changes to how the government works and operates in our day to day lives
Please note the cartoon posted only just above mine.

Please also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens. It's almost like fucking over your citizens is somehow not the best way to run your country.
Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 10:13:30 PM by Mad Max