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"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him saying, 'You are mad, you are not like us'."
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Weirdly I always look forward to your personal philosophical discoveries. Even if you seem a bit fickle at times, you seem to me to be at least  intellectually honest with yourself.


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Да ли је то истина или се само шалиш?
are you still religious


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We need that Anarcho-Communist revolution already, we've been discussing it for decades.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.


 
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you posted this the same day a school shooting happened, only highlighting one of the many fuck ups we're facing

bad timing smh


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Human Rights sill on exist because the State chooses to say that they exist.


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ΜΕΓΑ ΤΟ ΤΗΣ ΘΑΛΆΣΣΗΣ ΚΡΆΤΟΣ

Да ли је то истина или се само шалиш?


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.


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Russia is a good country with a very fucked up government.

Got exposed with corruption. Sued for invasion of privacy AND won the case!

xDDDD

gg, will win elections next month no problem.


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Yeah I understand that point, but I'm thinking practically here. If millions of people would reject that way of living, if they would refuse to accept and go along with it, then the state would have to force them to go along with it or force them out of society through tyranny.

tbh (and I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I don't know you well enough) I think any vision of utopia is directly pursued through naivety. Perhaps unless and until we discover an over-unity method of creating energy and in turn create over-abundance for our society. If we actually manage to reach the technological singularity, for instance, and it doesn't end up bringing about our extinction, then I think the pursuit of utopia might be more plausible. But only if, and this is a very huge if, (((human nature))) doesn't intervene again. After-all, people revel in danger and hardship. To so many, life is meaningless without struggle against something in some form. Without any struggle ever, I'm not certain a human can find meaning in living tbh. I'm just not wise enough to know and probably never will be.


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Yeah I understand that point, but I'm thinking practically here. If millions of people would reject that way of living, if they would refuse to accept and go along with it, then the state would have to force them to go along with it or force them out of society through tyranny.

tbh (and I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I don't know you well enough) I think any vision of utopia is directly pursued through naivety. Perhaps unless and until we discover an over-unity method of creating energy and in turn create over-abundance for our society. If we actually manage to reach the technological singularity, for instance, and it doesn't end up bringing about our extinction, then I think the pursuit of utopia might be more plausible. But only if, and this is a very huge if, (((human nature))) doesn't intervene again. After-all, people revel in danger and hardship. To so many, life is meaningless without struggle against something in some form. Without any struggle ever, I'm not certain a human can find meaning in living tbh. I'm just not wise enough to know and probably never will be.

The human nature argument always puzzled me, it's fairly obvious human nature is a result of surroundings, of nurture over nature for the most part, and so in a Capitalist society, people are selfish, as that is what the system rewards. Whereas a lot of people I know with anti-capitalist views are generally considerably kinder and more accepting/helpful.

I'm an Anarchist, and so I believe in abolishing the state, for freedom of all people, people telling you how to live and what to live for is an inherently oppressive thing. People want freedom.


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Yeah I understand that point, but I'm thinking practically here. If millions of people would reject that way of living, if they would refuse to accept and go along with it, then the state would have to force them to go along with it or force them out of society through tyranny.

tbh (and I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I don't know you well enough) I think any vision of utopia is directly pursued through naivety. Perhaps unless and until we discover an over-unity method of creating energy and in turn create over-abundance for our society. If we actually manage to reach the technological singularity, for instance, and it doesn't end up bringing about our extinction, then I think the pursuit of utopia might be more plausible. But only if, and this is a very huge if, (((human nature))) doesn't intervene again. After-all, people revel in danger and hardship. To so many, life is meaningless without struggle against something in some form. Without any struggle ever, I'm not certain a human can find meaning in living tbh. I'm just not wise enough to know and probably never will be.

The human nature argument always puzzled me, it's fairly obvious human nature is a result of surroundings, of nurture over nature for the most part, and so in a Capitalist society, people are selfish, as that is what the system rewards. Whereas a lot of people I know with anti-capitalist views are generally considerably kinder and more accepting/helpful.

I'm an Anarchist, and so I believe in abolishing the state, for freedom of all people, people telling you how to live and what to live for is an inherently oppressive thing. People want freedom.
I think environment plays a very significant and important role in shaping a person's nature, but I also believe biology does as well, and perhaps there are many other factors I am not privy to because, as I said, I am not wise enough to understand them. I think human nature is something far too complex for some single person to definitively understand. The best we can do, as a species, is search for truths that we know to direct us towards the path of a meaningful life and condense these truths into wisdom that we carry into the future.

In utopia, I'm not so convinced that someone wouldn't try to tear it down, to create chaos again.


 
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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.

"All fascism is, is a disciplined and ordered society where criminality is non-existent"

Implementing communism is a bit more complicated than 'community controlled means of production', and you know it. How many more botched attempts at true communism™ does it take for Marxists to realise that it simply fails at facilitating resources efficiently.


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Yeah I understand that point, but I'm thinking practically here. If millions of people would reject that way of living, if they would refuse to accept and go along with it, then the state would have to force them to go along with it or force them out of society through tyranny.

tbh (and I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I don't know you well enough) I think any vision of utopia is directly pursued through naivety. Perhaps unless and until we discover an over-unity method of creating energy and in turn create over-abundance for our society. If we actually manage to reach the technological singularity, for instance, and it doesn't end up bringing about our extinction, then I think the pursuit of utopia might be more plausible. But only if, and this is a very huge if, (((human nature))) doesn't intervene again. After-all, people revel in danger and hardship. To so many, life is meaningless without struggle against something in some form. Without any struggle ever, I'm not certain a human can find meaning in living tbh. I'm just not wise enough to know and probably never will be.

The human nature argument always puzzled me, it's fairly obvious human nature is a result of surroundings, of nurture over nature for the most part, and so in a Capitalist society, people are selfish, as that is what the system rewards. Whereas a lot of people I know with anti-capitalist views are generally considerably kinder and more accepting/helpful.

I'm an Anarchist, and so I believe in abolishing the state, for freedom of all people, people telling you how to live and what to live for is an inherently oppressive thing. People want freedom.
"Capitalism" is a pure expression of human nature. There's a reason no other system ever lasts. Communism, fascism, whatever.

Some studies have shown that humans are actually significantly more empathetic and kind than you'd think. I don't agree that Capitalism is the only way.


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.

"All fascism is, is a disciplined and ordered society where criminality is non-existent"

Implementing communism is a bit more complicated than 'community controlled means of production', and you know it. How many more botched attempts at true communism™ does it take for Marxists to realise that it simply fails at facilitating resources efficiently.

That's because the concept of Communism is broader than you think evidently.


 
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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.
i challenge you to make capitalism sound appealing


 
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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.
i challenge you to make capitalism sound appealing
I just bought a loaf of bread.


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Russia is a good country with a very fucked up government.

Got exposed with corruption. Sued for invasion of privacy AND won the case!

xDDDD

gg, will win elections next month no problem.
Putin is a better leader than all European leaders combined.


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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?
No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.
i challenge you to make capitalism sound appealing
I just bought a loaf of bread.

Imagine actually being content with a system that forces you to slave under the rich to simply live. In a glorious Anarchist society, our bread is plentiful and shared fairly.


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I was actually kidding about all that leftism stuff im a facsist now. im racist


 
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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.
i challenge you to make capitalism sound appealing
I just bought a loaf of bread.
having to afford bread appeals to you?


 
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Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Geez, when you reduce complex ideologies down like that you can make almost anything sound appealing.
i challenge you to make capitalism sound appealing
I just bought a loaf of bread.
having to afford bread appeals to you?
Yes. I want my life to be a giant never-ending skinner box until the day I die.