I'm tired of hearing about racism

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Maybe you've felt that way, or just feel exhausted or annoyed by the constant barrage of articles, videos, tweets, complaints, etc. on social media. I'm reposting a statement from a very politically active, liberal, Christian friend of mine because it's a sentiment that I've never seen on here, and our beliefs, biases, and viewpoints deserve to be challenged:

"So easy for white folks like ourselves to "put racism aside" because we can, we aren't faced with it every day of our lives.
TILL our black brothers and sisters are not killed in the streets by police at a rate vastly outsized for their portion of the population.
TILL our brothers and sisters are not kept out of homes by redlining.
TILL our brothers and sisters are not called "welfare cheats."
TILL our brothers and sisters are not arrested and thrown in prisons at rates larger than any other population.
TILL our brothers and sisters are not kept from jobs once they are out of prison.
TILL our brothers and sisters are not kept in schools that are more segregated than during Jim Crow, that perform worse than the "white" schools across our country.
TILL our brothers and sisters are not punished at different rates for drug offenses, even in "legalized" states.
TILL justice is served for our brothers and sisters.
TILL we stop being numb to others' pain and recognize that "hard work" isn't worth jack shit.
‪#‎Blacklivesmatter‬ and it is up to us to trust the experiences of those around us and shout it and affirm it from the highest mountaintop. Because THAT is what Christ would do. CHRIST did not say "everyone," HE called on SPECIFIC groups of people that were marginalized, if that is our standard for what is truth. He affirmed their existence and power and centrality to the Kingdom. And we must do the same."


 
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Did you reply to them?

No; I agree with the sentiment for the most part, and I've sworn off political arguments on social media.


 
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What the hell does "TILL" mean?


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What's there to say?  BLM is a racist movement that even black people oppose.  No one bring it up except them, and hell it just happened during the Comey hearing where two or three of the black people there start bringing up how our country is racist to black people out of no where.  In Canada, Toronto or Ontario, BLM hijacked a pride parade until they gave in to their petty demands. 

And people who think like this are even racist to their own people, say that all black people must think this way or else they're wrong, they aren't allowed to think for themselves.  News flash, black have just as much self agency as any other person.  Stop trying to blame all your problems on non existent institutionalized racism and micro aggressions.   


 
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What the hell does "TILL" mean?
the word "till" (as in "until") capitalized for emphasis


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Toys are hereby declared:
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placed under ARREST and thrown in the DUNGEON!
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And this pisses me off

'TILL our brothers and sisters are not arrested and thrown in prisons at rates larger than any other population"

THEN STOP COMMITTING A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CRIMES FOR YOUR POPULATION SIZE.
People.. I fuckin swear


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What the hell does "TILL" mean?
It's an abbreviated form of the word "until".


 
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What the hell does "TILL" mean?
the word "till" (as in "until") capitalized for emphasis

That's what I thought but I've always seen that word as "til" and it seemed really odd that he would start all his sentences with slang.


 
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i agree with the general principles, but some of the assertions made are patently false

schools more segregated than jim crow?
where?

and black students performing worse in school than white students has so little to do with racism...


 
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i agree with the general principles, but some of the assertions made are patently false

schools more segregated than jim crow?
where?

and black students performing worse in school than white students has so little to do with racism...

I've seen the argument that our school's test are biased to whites; asking questions white children would have an easier time answering. And that's why blacks perform worse.


 
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And this pisses me off

'TILL our brothers and sisters are not arrested and thrown in prisons at rates larger than any other population"

THEN STOP COMMITTING A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF CRIMES FOR YOUR POPULATION SIZE.
People.. I fuckin swear

The argument is that blacks who commit crimes are incarcerated at a higher rate than whites who commit crimes.


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i agree with the general principles, but some of the assertions made are patently false

schools more segregated than jim crow?
where?

and black students performing worse in school than white students has so little to do with racism...

The segregation bit is a spurious claim made by Hillary Clinton, but poor performance is demonstrably a factor of funding, with the assertion being that "black" schools are frequently underfunded and closed at a higher rate than those in richer, "white" neighborhoods. Standardized testing and curricula are arguably derived from white culture and perspective, also leading to decreased performance.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/25/hillary-clinton/american-schools-are-more-segregated-they-were-196/

NPR did a big report about it recently, but I listened to it on the radio and can't find the specific articles from a quick search; here's one example, though:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/17/478389720/after-50-year-legal-struggle-mississippi-school-district-ordered-to-desegregate
Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 02:42:08 PM by HrfulTurkie


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i agree with the general principles, but some of the assertions made are patently false

schools more segregated than jim crow?
where?

and black students performing worse in school than white students has so little to do with racism...

I've seen the argument that our school's test are biased to whites; asking questions white children would have an easier time answering. And that's why blacks perform worse.
Any examples of this?


 
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Any examples of this?

No, but Turkey just posted some interesting stuff.

Keep in mind I don't buy the argument. I've just heard my fair share of liberal arguments and remembered one of the more spurious.


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Any examples of this?

tbh I think there's a much stronger argument for prevalently black schools being underfunded and closed disproportionately as a cause for decreased performance.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2998809?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents (Haven't read; thought the summary was interesting)

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/18/474256366/why-americas-schools-have-a-money-problem

And it's important to note that this isn't necessarily outright racism; many on both sides of the issue will point out that there's a strong correlation between discrimination against black students, and discrimination against poor people, meaning it's common for the system to screw poor people, and black people are significantly more likely to be poor than white people.


 
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The system targets the poor and the welfare scheme keeps blacks poor. We need to end the scam amd overhaul the system so that it's possible for a family to get off of the wild ride.


 
 
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and black students performing worse in school than white students has so little to do with racism...
I think that they're implying that because blacks are impoverished at a higher rate than whites that they are not allowed to solely focus on school. At least, that's just what I got out of it.


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