Quote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 08:35:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 08:06:00 PMhurr durr post a useless video.I didn't say shouting "liar" was racist. In fact, I never said any of this was racist. But the only major difference is Obama's race. If it's not because he's black, I'm curious as to the cause of the lack of respect for the office of the President. I'm also curious if it will continue in 2016.I never said any of this was racist guys! I only said that's the only possible difference / explanation. Money definitely couldn't be playing a role here. Or the fact that Bush single-handedly lowered reverence for the office. Or the fact we are now in the information age and the govt isn't some mysterious far away idea. Can't be that repulicans have recently been taken over by the far right and have shoved out all the moderates. Encouraging behavior so clownish that Donald Trump is running for office. No clearly Obama is experiencing previously unheard of disrespect, and the only possible explanation is his skin color. Its not money or stupid political pandering. Just can't be. Has to be skin color. Its the only thing that's changed afterall. But I'm not saying its racist or anything.Yes it'll continue in 2016. Except then it'll be Hilary and you'll say its cuz she's a woman. Because muh identity politics.God, I fuckin' hope it's not Hillary
Quote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 08:06:00 PMhurr durr post a useless video.I didn't say shouting "liar" was racist. In fact, I never said any of this was racist. But the only major difference is Obama's race. If it's not because he's black, I'm curious as to the cause of the lack of respect for the office of the President. I'm also curious if it will continue in 2016.I never said any of this was racist guys! I only said that's the only possible difference / explanation. Money definitely couldn't be playing a role here. Or the fact that Bush single-handedly lowered reverence for the office. Or the fact we are now in the information age and the govt isn't some mysterious far away idea. Can't be that repulicans have recently been taken over by the far right and have shoved out all the moderates. Encouraging behavior so clownish that Donald Trump is running for office. No clearly Obama is experiencing previously unheard of disrespect, and the only possible explanation is his skin color. Its not money or stupid political pandering. Just can't be. Has to be skin color. Its the only thing that's changed afterall. But I'm not saying its racist or anything.Yes it'll continue in 2016. Except then it'll be Hilary and you'll say its cuz she's a woman. Because muh identity politics.
hurr durr post a useless video.I didn't say shouting "liar" was racist. In fact, I never said any of this was racist. But the only major difference is Obama's race. If it's not because he's black, I'm curious as to the cause of the lack of respect for the office of the President. I'm also curious if it will continue in 2016.
Quote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 07:28:24 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 07:25:55 PMQuote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 07:21:34 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 07:19:34 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 07:13:13 PMPart of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecutionYou don't want a republican winning office, trust me. I wouldn't mind the candidates if 97% of them weren't ass backwards in so many ways. I can only think of like 2, maybe 3 of the.. what, 16 candidates running, that are actually decent.Regardless the next president will essentially decide whether the supreme court is conservative or liberal for the next couple decades. Not sure if I'd give that up just for the sake of some pettiness.They just ruled against lethal injections which seemed to make people gasp in pain for 15 mins before dying. I don't consider myself a liberal, but I think a more liberal Supreme Court might do some good. Still, that place needs term limits. It's arguably the strongest branch of the government because what they say, goes.Ye. Kennedy is definitely more powerful than the president at this point. Not sure on how I'd feel about term limits there tho. You need some sort of steady hand in govt. Musical chairs when it comes to the highest court in the land doesn't sound like a good idea to me.Eh... okay, yeah I didn't really think of it like that. Still though, let's just pull a Rome then and make the President dictator for life.
Quote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 07:25:55 PMQuote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 07:21:34 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 07:19:34 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 07:13:13 PMPart of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecutionYou don't want a republican winning office, trust me. I wouldn't mind the candidates if 97% of them weren't ass backwards in so many ways. I can only think of like 2, maybe 3 of the.. what, 16 candidates running, that are actually decent.Regardless the next president will essentially decide whether the supreme court is conservative or liberal for the next couple decades. Not sure if I'd give that up just for the sake of some pettiness.They just ruled against lethal injections which seemed to make people gasp in pain for 15 mins before dying. I don't consider myself a liberal, but I think a more liberal Supreme Court might do some good. Still, that place needs term limits. It's arguably the strongest branch of the government because what they say, goes.Ye. Kennedy is definitely more powerful than the president at this point. Not sure on how I'd feel about term limits there tho. You need some sort of steady hand in govt. Musical chairs when it comes to the highest court in the land doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
Quote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 07:21:34 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 07:19:34 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 07:13:13 PMPart of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecutionYou don't want a republican winning office, trust me. I wouldn't mind the candidates if 97% of them weren't ass backwards in so many ways. I can only think of like 2, maybe 3 of the.. what, 16 candidates running, that are actually decent.Regardless the next president will essentially decide whether the supreme court is conservative or liberal for the next couple decades. Not sure if I'd give that up just for the sake of some pettiness.They just ruled against lethal injections which seemed to make people gasp in pain for 15 mins before dying. I don't consider myself a liberal, but I think a more liberal Supreme Court might do some good. Still, that place needs term limits. It's arguably the strongest branch of the government because what they say, goes.
Quote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 07:19:34 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 07:13:13 PMPart of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecutionYou don't want a republican winning office, trust me. I wouldn't mind the candidates if 97% of them weren't ass backwards in so many ways. I can only think of like 2, maybe 3 of the.. what, 16 candidates running, that are actually decent.Regardless the next president will essentially decide whether the supreme court is conservative or liberal for the next couple decades. Not sure if I'd give that up just for the sake of some pettiness.
Quote from: Mad Max on June 29, 2015, 07:13:13 PMPart of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecutionYou don't want a republican winning office, trust me. I wouldn't mind the candidates if 97% of them weren't ass backwards in so many ways. I can only think of like 2, maybe 3 of the.. what, 16 candidates running, that are actually decent.
Part of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecution
Sanders pls
WHO'S READY FOR HILLDOG 2016SO PROGRESSIVE
Quote from: Madman Mordo on June 29, 2015, 09:35:52 PMWHO'S READY FOR HILLDOG 2016SO PROGRESSIVEYep, that's exactly why I'll never vote for her. All of her evolution on her positions has been in the last 5 years or so.
Truth. In other counties you could be killed for disrespecting the leader the way people disrespect Obama. I understand people don't have to agree with him, but they really treat the man like he isn't the commander in chief. I couldn't even disrespect my governor like that better yet the president. Smh
] ye but its gonna be. She would've beat obama in '08 had flordia and michigan not jacked things up with their primaries. I want Sanders, but numbers are on the wall.
And technically, Rome made the dictator the dictator for life.Caesar literally coined the term "dictator" as a negative.
Quote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 09:33:24 PM] ye but its gonna be. She would've beat obama in '08 had flordia and michigan not jacked things up with their primaries. I want Sanders, but numbers are on the wall.Sanders is too liberal to fly with everyone else and the swing voters.
Quote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 11:11:25 PMQuote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 09:33:24 PM] ye but its gonna be. She would've beat obama in '08 had flordia and michigan not jacked things up with their primaries. I want Sanders, but numbers are on the wall.Sanders is too liberal to fly with everyone else and the swing voters.I think he'll surprise people. He's drawing the largest crowds atm. Some 5k came to see him in Colorado.
Quote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 11:14:27 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 11:11:25 PMQuote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 09:33:24 PM] ye but its gonna be. She would've beat obama in '08 had flordia and michigan not jacked things up with their primaries. I want Sanders, but numbers are on the wall.Sanders is too liberal to fly with everyone else and the swing voters.I think he'll surprise people. He's drawing the largest crowds atm. Some 5k came to see him in Colorado.But will he be able to beat the giant that is Hilary?
Quote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 11:21:30 PMQuote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 11:14:27 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 11:11:25 PMQuote from: Naoto on June 29, 2015, 09:33:24 PM] ye but its gonna be. She would've beat obama in '08 had flordia and michigan not jacked things up with their primaries. I want Sanders, but numbers are on the wall.Sanders is too liberal to fly with everyone else and the swing voters.I think he'll surprise people. He's drawing the largest crowds atm. Some 5k came to see him in Colorado.But will he be able to beat the giant that is Hilary?Probably not.
Obama basically said the same things.
Quote from: Luciana on June 29, 2015, 11:12:35 PMObama basically said the same things.To be fair, Obama always supported gay rights and civil unions. He started supporting same-sex marriage after he realized how much it meant to them. It's not like he completely 180 spun his stance to appeal to a voter base like some will claim. I'm sure it's the same deal for Hillary.
Liberal shills shilling for liberals ITT
And while that was disrespectful, at least Bush deserved it. And it almost inaudible booing, not somebody telling an insult at the president.
I'm not saying it's racism, but...
