Hypothetically, if humans were carnivorous...

 
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the pain you would feel if you were shot feeling is majorly emotional
You are just so unbelievably wrong. If something cuts a nerve, it hurts like hell. Maybe you've never been physically hurt in your life, so you don't understand what it's like. But trust me, it's physically painful, and it has almost nothing to do with emotions. Nothing.


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the pain you would feel if you were shot feeling is majorly emotional
You are just so unbelievably wrong. If something cuts a nerve, it hurts like hell. Maybe you've never been physically hurt in your life, so you don't understand what it's like. But trust me, it's physically painful, and it has almost nothing to do with emotions. Nothing.
Like I said, you don't understand what I'm talking about.

There is absolutely an emotional side to that pain, that you do not understand.
That is the part of the pain you can share, that makes other people feel bad for you.
A LOT of people don't understand this, so I wouldn't expect you to.

That's the part that keeps you looking back on it years later and thinking about how much it hurt.

If somebody looks at your wound and feels bad for you without you telling them it hurts, then they're projecting too, it's a thing people do to other people because they understand that you obviously must feel something that they can identify with.

You make the mistake of thinking a dog feels the same thing you would (a lot of people make that mistake, but most don't capitalise on it, because subconsciously they don't identify with the dog).

Like I said, it's a complex philosophical construct you have to actually try to understand, but you feel like trying would be some sort of thoughtcrime.

I don't expect you to agree with me, I just expect you to understand the philosophical school that creates ethics before you go around talking about them.

So you can watch the dog reel in pain, but you'll never understand that the dog will never care that it was in that pain beyond point that it can feel it, assuming it even lives, which if it doesn't, none of its doggy friends will mourn for it, so there's nobody to feel bad for.


 
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What you haven't done is
1. Prove that the dog isn't feeling pain
2. Prove why the dog's pain doesn't matter

You're not going to be able to do that. At this point, I'm not even reading your walls until you do that. I'm just skimming this crap at this point.


 
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I don't care that the dog doesn't care. I don't care that no dogs will mourn for the dog.

The fact that the negative sensation took place AT ALL is the problem.

But of course, you don't think there was a negative sensation, for some (insane) reason.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I just don't understand how people can be this... irrational.
Because we've got other things to concern ourselves with in life.

Philosophy is the hobby of fat old men and liberal arts students.


 
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I just don't understand how people can be this... irrational.
Because we've got other things to concern ourselves with in life.
Cop-out response to a statement that didn't need a reply.

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Philosophy is the hobby of fat old men and liberal arts students.

False. I'm neither.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I just don't understand how people can be this... irrational.
Because we've got other things to concern ourselves with in life.
Cop-out response to a statement that didn't need a reply.

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Philosophy is the hobby of fat old men and liberal arts students.

False. I'm neither.
Stay mad that I've no qualms about killing an animal to eat or to eliminate pests from the area... like those goddamn feral cats at the airport.


 
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I just don't understand how people can be this... irrational.
Because we've got other things to concern ourselves with in life.
Cop-out response to a statement that didn't need a reply.

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Philosophy is the hobby of fat old men and liberal arts students.

False. I'm neither.
Stay mad that I've no qualms about killing an animal to eat or to eliminate pests from the area... like those goddamn feral cats at the airport.

Boot, I'm not mad. Just disappointed.


 
 
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The dolphin rape thing is apocryphal at best. Never heard of the drowning thing.
IIRC they used a test dummy with sensors/cameras to monitor this and the dolphins did drag it down to this undersea cave and well... the rest is fairly obvious <.<

It's been a while since I read it but I'm fairly certain it does happen. The drowning humans thing is rarer, but they drown other dolphins fairly frequently. A group of young male dolphins will surround a weaker one and batter seven shades of shite out of it and hold it underwater so that it can't surface for air.

Nasty stuff really.


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#stupidshitverbatimsays


 
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Yet literally no one has been able to best him.


 
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This thread...

#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>


 
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#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.


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#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.

He's really easy to best, he just usually brings people down to his level of stupid to drive them away. That, or he doesn't quote people, so they don't even know he's replied and then he declares he "wins".

Oh, and the fact he says stupid shit as if it's fact, like "HURRR PAIN IS BAD". Literally wrong on every level. Or "negative" shit, like his view is the only view.


 
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This thread...

#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.
lol that is not a real response in the least. Just a bit of an observation due to me not being able to (and probably won't be able to) crack that idea.

i don't know man I guess adopting is the way to go for you then?


 
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#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.

He's really easy to best, he just usually brings people down to his level of stupid to drive them away. That, or he doesn't quote people, so they don't even know he's replied and then he declares he "wins".
If someone is that interested in ending his career (for lack of a better term) you'd think they'd follow up to see if he has replied. But, no one is interested in trying because they know subconsciously they can't.

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Oh, and the fact he says stupid shit as if it's fact, like "HURRR PAIN IS BAD". Literally wrong on every level.
Wait... what? How is pain NOT bad?

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Or "negative" shit, like his view is the only view.
Well, obviously he believes his view is the only correct view. Otherwise, why would he believe in that view? That's like an atheist thinking Christianity is the only correct view. Makes no sense.


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This thread...

#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.

LOL you're as cringe worthy as verbatim. There's nothing wrong with having kids.


 
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#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.
lol that is not a real response in the least. Just a bit of an observation due to me not being able to (and probably won't be able to) crack that idea.

i don't know man I guess adopting is the way to go for you then?

Like I said, it's counterintuitive. And it's really hard to defend an attack against an orthodoxy, because it's, well, an orthodoxy. It's usually not under attack.

Well, if I'm being 100% honest, I'd rather not have kids at all. I really don't like other people's kids (I can actually hate the little shits, in some rare cases), so I'm not sure if I would make a suitable parent. Me being open to adoption is more for my significant other, who I doubt will hold the same views as I do.

It's all very complex and specific to my situation. I won't get into it further.


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This thread...

#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.

He's really easy to best, he just usually brings people down to his level of stupid to drive them away. That, or he doesn't quote people, so they don't even know he's replied and then he declares he "wins".
If someone is that interested in ending his career (for lack of a better term) you'd think they'd follow up to see if he has replied. But, no one is interested in trying because they know subconsciously they can't.

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Oh, and the fact he says stupid shit as if it's fact, like "HURRR PAIN IS BAD". Literally wrong on every level.
Wait... what? How is pain NOT bad?

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Or "negative" shit, like his view is the only view.
Well, obviously he believes his view is the only correct view. Otherwise, why would he believe in that view? That's like an atheist thinking Christianity is the only correct view. Makes no sense.

That's probably the dumbest excuse I've ever heard for not quoting people and why they may not reply. Literally fucking retarded to the point you're a fucking retard. Maybe people have better things to do than reply to an edgy autistic teenager on a backwater forum who thinks its a better idea to kill off humanity rather than let humans evolve to a state of peace and happiness?

How is pain bad? You have yet to say how it is bad. There is nothing to define it as bad because it isn't.

Except his view is wrong, simple as that.


 
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#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.

LOL you're as cringe worthy as verbatim. There's nothing wrong with having kids.

Considering life is an imposition, and impositions are wrong...


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This thread...

#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.

LOL you're as cringe worthy as verbatim. There's nothing wrong with having kids.

Considering life is an imposition, and impositions are wrong...

Considering life is a proposition, not an imposition, and considering impositions aren't wrong either.


 
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This thread...

#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.
Really the only fault I've found so far is that you guys think too much. >.>

Come now, T. You know that's a cop-out response because you don't have a legitimate one.

You've known me for awhile, and the one thing I've always wanted is kids. But I just can't. There's no justifying it. It's wrong to impose life on anyone.
lol that is not a real response in the least. Just a bit of an observation due to me not being able to (and probably won't be able to) crack that idea.

i don't know man I guess adopting is the way to go for you then?

Like I said, it's counterintuitive. And it's really hard to defend an attack against an orthodoxy, because it's, well, an orthodoxy. It's usually not under attack.

Well, if I'm being 100% honest, I'd rather not have kids at all. I really don't like other people's kids (I can actually hate the little shits, in some rare cases), so I'm not sure if I would make a suitable parent. Me being open to adoption is more for my significant other, who I doubt will hold the same views as I do.

It's all very complex and specific to my situation. I won't get into it further.
Fair enough. :P


 
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#stupidshitverbatimsays

Yet literally no one has been able to best him.

He's really easy to best, he just usually brings people down to his level of stupid to drive them away. That, or he doesn't quote people, so they don't even know he's replied and then he declares he "wins".
If someone is that interested in ending his career (for lack of a better term) you'd think they'd follow up to see if he has replied. But, no one is interested in trying because they know subconsciously they can't.

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Oh, and the fact he says stupid shit as if it's fact, like "HURRR PAIN IS BAD". Literally wrong on every level.
Wait... what? How is pain NOT bad?

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Or "negative" shit, like his view is the only view.
Well, obviously he believes his view is the only correct view. Otherwise, why would he believe in that view? That's like an atheist thinking Christianity is the only correct view. Makes no sense.

That's probably the dumbest excuse I've ever heard for not quoting people and why they may not reply.
I'm not trying to justify it, either. I think it's stupid as well. If you're replying to someone, you should quote them so that they know. But it's his prerogative NOT to.

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Literally fucking retarded to the point you're a fucking retard.
Hold on a second, I've gotta fulton a russian translator away to Motherbase so I can figure out what the fuck you just said.

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Maybe people have better things to do than reply to an edgy autistic teenager on a backwater forum who thinks its a better idea to kill off humanity rather than let humans evolve to a state of peace and happiness?
Were that the case, they wouldn't have gotten involved in the argument in the first place.

You really think, out of the hundreds of arguments and people Verbatim has conversed with, that not ONE of them was willing to finish the argument to it's end? No. People just can't. There's no way around it.

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How is pain bad? You have yet to say how it is bad. There is nothing to define it as bad because it isn't.
Pain is a negative emotion, therefore, bad.