How would you vote in Germany and France?

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Germany:
The Christian Democratic Union
- The CDU is a centre-right political party.
- They supports Christian democracy, although its membership includes atheists.
- It has advocated a mild social market economy, similar to Clinton's third way.
- They have, however, become more fiscally conservative since the Chancellorship of Helmut Kohl.
- They are committed to European integration, but they oppose Turkish membership.
- They favour a strong relationship with the USA.
- They also favour integration of immigrants via language courses and other means.
- The current leader--and Chancellor of Germany--Angela Merkel's approval ratings sit at 77pc.
Social Democratic Party
- The SDP is a centre-left party.
- They advocate social democracy through a strengthened and co-ordinated social market economy.
- They support the distribution of wealth and an extensive social safety net.
- Although, they try to balance this with responsible fiscal policy and the elimination of budget deficits.
- The party is split between the moderates and the Keynesians ever since deeply unpopular welfare cuts in the early 2000s.
- They support European integration.
- As well as economic regulation to limit the potential losses of banks.
- The party also supports a common EU economic policy, as well as environmental regulation.
The Left
- The Left is the main left-wing federal party in Germany.
- It argues for democratic socialism to replace capitalism.
- Although current policies rely on Keynesian economics; they believe the government should combine expansionary monetary and fiscal policies during a downturn.
- The Left also argues for increasing government spending in a wide number of areas, from infrastructure to culture.
- They completely oppose privatisation.
- Support increased corporation and inheritance taxes, empowering co-operatives, banning oil and gas fracking and a federal minimum wage.
Free Democratic Party
- The FDP is a centre-right, classical liberal party.
- Supports cutting the bureaucracy down, privatisation and ending subsidies.
- They also support reforming social security along the lines of personal savings accounts.
- They believe the government should have a minimal social role, and have traditionally supported LGBT rights.
- However, as of the last election they have been ousted from the federal parliament. They can't shake the image of the party of the rich.


France:
The Union for a Popular Movement
- The UMP is a broad-church, centre-right to right-wing political party.
- Their ideas range from Christian democracy to classical liberalism.
- They believe strongly in self-sufficiency, and value things like merit and innovation.
- However, the party also promotes the rule of law and adherence to authority for the sake of social cohesion.
- The party has sometimes taken a tough stance on immigration and strongly supported cultural assimilation.
- Under Nicolas Sarkozy, several thousand Roma were controversially expelled from France.
- They have, historically, tried to balance support for European integration with nationalism.
- Under Sarkozy, the government promised to make overtime hours tax-exempt.
- He also tried to strengthen ties with the US by sending 1,000 troops to Afghanistan.
 
The Socialist Party
- The PS is a broad church, centre-left to left-wing party which currently controls the Assembly and the Presidency.
- It has factions ranging from socialism to social democracy, although the current president is considered a moderate.
- It has, historically, been compared to the UK's Labour Party before Tony Blair.
- Under Hollande, the government has wanted to separate investment and retail banking.
- They also favour phasing out nuclear energy in favour of alternative renewable energy.
- Hollande also sought a top rate of income tax at 75pc.
- The party has also pledged to eliminate the deficit by 2017.
- They supported the removal of French troops from Afghanistan, although they began a very successful military operation in Mali in 2013.
- Hollande's approval ratings sit at 12pc.
National Front
- The FN is a socially right-wing but economically left-wing party in France.
- The party takes a 'zero-tolerance' approach to crime, and supports harsher sentences with increased prison capacity.
- It has historically been opposed to (particularly Islamic) immigration.
- Marine Le Pen has criticised Muslim immigrants for their threats against the values of France.
- The party is also protectionist, and opposed to globalisation.
- They seek to nationalise healthcare, education, transportation, banking and energy.
- The party now seeks to leave the Euro and establish French customs borders.

I'd probably vote for the CDU in Germany, and the UMP in France.


 
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I don't know if I like the CDU or FDP for Germany better...

UMP for Frogland.


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German politics is useless. The Fuhrer's doctrine is the only thing they adopt. You cannot afford to be a dissident in Germany.

Probably would vote for National Front in France to protest. I will not vote for anyone who does not wish to leave the EU.
Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 05:33:24 PM by Karjala takaisin


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The Left in Germany and the Socialist Party in France


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Germany: Free Democrats, but it would probably easier to spread classical liberal ideas from within the christian democrats.

France: UMP, although I could see myself getting high and voting National Front ironically.
Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 05:48:30 PM by Lemy the Lizerd


 
 
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The Left for Krautland and probably UMP for Frogistan although the french seem to have three particularly shit parties to choose from.


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They are all retarded

Makes the Tories look like gods and Farage look like Churchill instead of Hitler


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The Left for Krautland and probably UMP for Frogistan although the french seem to have three particularly shit parties to choose from.
Makes me glad that in America we only have two utterly shit parties to pick from. Polarization makes everything easier!


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At a glance probably FDP(possibly CDU) and UMP. Though don't really feel like I've looked into it enough to make an informed choice.

Also dat National Front. 'Socially conservative, Fiscally liberal'. Seems like an odd pairing. I can understand fiscally conservative and socially liberal, but that's just crazy.
Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 07:31:22 PM by Naoto


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In Germany one does not vote they follow the word of the Fuhrer. In France I'd vote National Front.


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Either CDU or FDP for Germany, UMP without contest for France.


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I love you, son.
I can't decide who I'll vote for here in the UK, let alone another country.


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I can't decide who I'll vote for here in the UK, let alone another country.
UKIP seems like an awesome choice.


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I can't decide who I'll vote for here in the UK, let alone another country.
UKIP seems like an awesome choice.
Ahaha no.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

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The SDP and SP. I don't entirely agree with everything from either party, but they seem a better choice than the rest.


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I can't decide who I'll vote for here in the UK, let alone another country.
UKIP seems like an awesome choice.
Ahaha no.
>not voting anti-EU


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I can't decide who I'll vote for here in the UK, let alone another country.
UKIP seems like an awesome choice.
If I vote UKIP it'll only be because I love in a Tory stronghold.