Did we learn anything from that experiment?

Did we learn anything from that experiment?

I'd assume it was research into the effects of sleep deprivation. Only I don't see how we could learn anything new about it by now considering the study results already available.

Seems pretty needless. Now if they were testing some method or treatment to shorten sleep cycles without the side effects that'd be one thing, but I'm not sure I see the point except for the 60's-flavor shits and giggles.

They're just rats, who cares?

Because rats have a capacity to suffer, perhaps?

That doesn't answer my question.

I figured the "who cares?" was facetious at best, since you're basically faced with a thread full of people who seem to care. I thought I'd elucidate on why such people care.

At least it's only a shitty animal, not a human being.

It's not clear that there were any significant research gains in this endeavour.

Making something suffer for no net gain is always immoral.

At least it's only a shitty animal, not a human being.

i thought ultra liberals were supposed to be the least bigoted people on the planet

A non-vegan is trying to talk to me about animal rights.

How is THAT allowed?

First Amendment.

Quote from: Mad Max on July 10, 2015, 01:08:50 AM

At least it's only a shitty animal, not a human being.

It's not clear that there were any significant research gains in this endeavour.

Making something suffer for no net gain is always immoral.

Meta is right. If the research actually proved to be valuable, or rather, can help human beings, then you can make an argument. But this "research" was utterly pointless and in no way should be seen as justified. Suffering is suffering, pain is pain. Whether or not it was for the better of the vast majority is when things blur. In this case, it was deeply in the wrong.

They're just rats, who cares?

You're just one of 7billion humans who cares if you get kidnapped or go missing when there's a shit ton more to replace you? Even if it's just a rat the thing is still able to feel pain and suffer from an experiment that has no gains to it.

Well you can never trust them Himalayans.

- Daiya Cheese (site appears to be down atm) is the best vegan cheese I've tried (most of them taste like ballsweat). You may have to go to a health food store to find them though, and they aren't cheap, so I don't buy them often.

This shit is the fucking bomb. If you haven't had their pizza, you're doing it wrong.

I'd also like to add that if Meta is a fan of the Big Mac, he should try out Burger King's veggie burger. Surprisingly good, honestly. Though, I don't know what fast food places they have where he lives.

Just remember that going vegan is like jumping into a cold pool; the hardest part is the initial plunge. After that it's incredibly easy. Now I'm going to go for a run. Do you know how far I can run fueled by clean, pure veganosity? Really fucking far, I'll tell you that.

This. I remember back (almost a year ago), when you and Verbatim convinced me to "take the plunge" (I had already stopped eating meat at that point, didn't realise the harm in cheese and eggs yet). It was really hard to do at first, because I used to chow down on pizza almost every day. After month 3 or 4, however, you start to get used to it. Pasta really helped, the vegan pizza I posted above, a few veggie burgers here or there...

It's really not as big a deal as people make it out to be.

We should be  doing this shit to mosquitoes...they deserve it

That is rather fucked up poor rat. This reminds me of this creepypasta called the Russian Sleep Experiment.

http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Russian_Sleep_Experiment

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I forgot that good creepy pasta exists.
I list interest after it all turned into Edgy™ Teen fan fiction and cringy fan art. Marble hornets looked really interesting™

Ot: love how verb derailed this into a vegan elitist thread