A second secret email address used by Hillary Rodham Clinton while she was secretary of state was revealed Monday.The email address, published by The New York Times, was used in exchanges between Clinton and longtime adviser Sydney Blumenthal, and is from the same private email server that was uncovered earlier this year.โFyi. The idea of using private security experts to arm the opposition should be considered,โ Clinton wrote Blumenthal from the email address HRod17@clintonemail.com.The two were discussing strategies to help the opposition rebels oust Moammar Khadafy in Libya as that country descended into chaos in 2011.Clintonโs office insisted just two months ago that the only private email address used by the former secretary of state during her tenure was hdr22@clintonemail.com.In a 2015 letter to Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), Clintonโs lawyer acknowledged that the HRod17 email address existed, but stated explicitly that it was โnot an address that existed during Secretary Clintonโs tenure as secretary of state.โThe time stamps and content of the messages make clear that this statement was inaccurate, according to the Times report.The first private email use was seen as a breach of protocol. Clintonโs advisers handed over 55,000 pages of emails to the State Department so they could comply with an investigation. But, according to Vice News, those emails will not be made public until 2016.Clinton admitted to deleting thousands of others, claiming they were personal.The revelation of a second email address raises questions about Clintonโs transparency and her relationship with Blumenthal.The longtime Clinton confidant was not working at the State Department at the time, but advising American contractors that sought to do business in war-torn Libya.In another email after Blumenthal suggested the new Libyan leader, Mohamed Magariaf, would โseek a discrete relationship with Israel,โ Clinton wrote to her deputy Jake Sullivan, โIf true, this is encouraging. Should consider passing to Israelis,โ according to the Times.Blumenthalโs coordination with Clinton raises the likelihood of additional scrutiny as she runs for the White House.While he was not given a job in the State Department by the Obama administration, Blumenthal was employed by Bill and Hillary Clintonโs philanthropic organization, the Clinton Foundation, to help with research and โmessage guidance,โ according to the Times.At the same time, the Times reported, Blumenthal also was helping to craft Hillaryโs 2016 presidential campaign message by working as a consultant to Media Matters and American Bridge.
And shes gonna win going away because shes a woman.
Quote from: PSU on May 19, 2015, 12:20:53 PMAnd shes gonna win going away because shes a woman.Do you also think Obama won because he's black?
Quote from: PSU on May 19, 2015, 12:20:53 PMAnd shes gonna win going away because shes a woman.i kinda doubt it really. shes on the receiving end of a whole lotta negative ad pressure. half the country was already gonna stomp their foots and refuse to vote across the aisle and she's alienated a huge chunk of the democratic base. someone else will step over her, methinks. i dunno who that might could be tho.
Quote from: Azumarill on May 19, 2015, 01:40:08 PMQuote from: PSU on May 19, 2015, 12:20:53 PMAnd shes gonna win going away because shes a woman.i kinda doubt it really. shes on the receiving end of a whole lotta negative ad pressure. half the country was already gonna stomp their foots and refuse to vote across the aisle and she's alienated a huge chunk of the democratic base. someone else will step over her, methinks. i dunno who that might could be tho.I hope to god it's Bernie.
Quote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 01:46:50 PMQuote from: Azumarill on May 19, 2015, 01:40:08 PMQuote from: PSU on May 19, 2015, 12:20:53 PMAnd shes gonna win going away because shes a woman.i kinda doubt it really. shes on the receiving end of a whole lotta negative ad pressure. half the country was already gonna stomp their foots and refuse to vote across the aisle and she's alienated a huge chunk of the democratic base. someone else will step over her, methinks. i dunno who that might could be tho.I hope to god it's Bernie.unfortunately that "im a socialist!" thing isnt gonna work out for him in this america. thats on par with "communism" in terms of buzzwords that scare us. i think he'll run a great campaign and ill vote for him if he gets the chance but i think he's in a lotta trouble. he might could win a looooooooot of people over by debating circles around the republicants and hilldawg, but i dont have that much faith in the american people really. i think if another dem wins he'll definitely get on their cabinet tho
Quote from: Azumarill on May 19, 2015, 01:50:19 PMQuote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 01:46:50 PMQuote from: Azumarill on May 19, 2015, 01:40:08 PMQuote from: PSU on May 19, 2015, 12:20:53 PMAnd shes gonna win going away because shes a woman.i kinda doubt it really. shes on the receiving end of a whole lotta negative ad pressure. half the country was already gonna stomp their foots and refuse to vote across the aisle and she's alienated a huge chunk of the democratic base. someone else will step over her, methinks. i dunno who that might could be tho.I hope to god it's Bernie.unfortunately that "im a socialist!" thing isnt gonna work out for him in this america. thats on par with "communism" in terms of buzzwords that scare us. i think he'll run a great campaign and ill vote for him if he gets the chance but i think he's in a lotta trouble. he might could win a looooooooot of people over by debating circles around the republicants and hilldawg, but i dont have that much faith in the american people really. i think if another dem wins he'll definitely get on their cabinet thoHis major quality is the stability of his platform. He's basically run on the same platform for the last 30 years, and he doesn't spend time slamming his opponents. I've seen a few recent interviews with him and everyone keeps asking him about Hillary, and he'll just bring it back to him and his policies.Hopefully people can see through the OMG SOCIALISM argument and take a look at his voting record and policy support from the last few decades.
take a look at his voting record and policy support from the last few decades.
Quote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 01:54:42 PM take a look at his voting record and policy support from the last few decades.Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime.Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending.Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package.Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy.Enforce against wage discrimination based on gender.More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes.Voted YES on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges.Voted NO on vouchers for private & parochial schools.Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances.Voted NO on promoting free trade with Peru.Voted NO on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade.Voted NO on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement.Voted NO on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement.Voted NO on implementing free trade agreement with Chile.Impose tariffs against countries which manipulate currency.End the use of anti-personnel mines.Voted NO on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan.Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government.Voted NO on more immigrant visas for skilled workers.Religious affiliation: Jewish.Despite GOP rhetoric, Social Security is NOT going bankrupt.Reject proposals for private saving accounts.Voted YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million.Voted NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million.Voted NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date.Wouldn't get my vote.
That's because you disagree with his platform. My point was that he has integrity on what he runs on. He's not a flip-flopper or just trying to appeal to the masses.
Quote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 02:31:02 PMThat's because you disagree with his platform. My point was that he has integrity on what he runs on. He's not a flip-flopper or just trying to appeal to the masses.His integrity is worthless if his platform is shit. Yeah, at least we can see his platform, but that doesn't make it any more qualitative than the rest.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on May 19, 2015, 02:32:31 PMQuote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 02:31:02 PMThat's because you disagree with his platform. My point was that he has integrity on what he runs on. He's not a flip-flopper or just trying to appeal to the masses.His integrity is worthless if his platform is shit. Yeah, at least we can see his platform, but that doesn't make it any more qualitative than the rest.Just because you don't like it doesn't make it shit.
Quote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 02:33:42 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 19, 2015, 02:32:31 PMQuote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 02:31:02 PMThat's because you disagree with his platform. My point was that he has integrity on what he runs on. He's not a flip-flopper or just trying to appeal to the masses.His integrity is worthless if his platform is shit. Yeah, at least we can see his platform, but that doesn't make it any more qualitative than the rest.Just because you don't like it doesn't make it shit.To him it does. And to me it's kinda shit.
]Just because you don't like it doesn't make it shit.
Quote from: Mad Max on May 19, 2015, 02:33:42 PM]Just because you don't like it doesn't make it shit.What if I don't like it because it's shit?
Religious affiliation: Jewish.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on May 19, 2015, 02:27:22 PMReligious affiliation: Jewish.That's an odd thing to include in that list of negatives.
if you said Sarah Palin's platform was shit
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on May 19, 2015, 04:14:59 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 19, 2015, 02:27:22 PMReligious affiliation: Jewish.That's an odd thing to include in that list of negatives.jidf pls go
Who gives a shit?
Corrupt
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 19, 2015, 11:38:59 PMCorruptYou're using that word very loosely.