Here's a solution to Israel and Palestine

DAS B00T x2 · August 07, 2014, 04:27:27 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 07, 2014, 04:26:01 PM

It was a British colony back then. And since the UK went bankrupt, they had to give away all of their colonies, hence them extremely willing to give up both Uganda and Palestine. What were the bloody Jews thinking though... >.>

There were already a lot of them that had fled to the region before the Mandate, so that might have been another factor.

Super Irish · August 07, 2014, 04:28:26 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 07, 2014, 04:26:01 PM

What were the bloody Jews thinking though... >.>

"Great! We get a country for ourselves! A refuge from the horrors of war and anti-semitism!

Probably.

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM

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Reciffo_Smmoc · August 07, 2014, 04:30:18 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · August 07, 2014, 04:36:33 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM

"Let's settle in a region populated for 1,500 years by the same people who forcibly kicked us out before. This won't end incredibly one-sidedly."

I'm not sure how relations between Jews and the Ottomans were, so I'm not sure about the social climate in the territories years after the empire's fall. Considering that many Jews fled to the holy lands and the Palestine area, it couldn't have been as bad as Europe.

Super Irish · August 07, 2014, 04:45:49 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on August 07, 2014, 04:36:33 PM

I'm not sure how relations between Jews and the Ottomans were, so I'm not sure about the social climate in the territories years after the empire's fall. Considering that many Jews fled to the holy lands and the Palestine area, it couldn't have been as bad as Europe.

From what I gather from my father, Jews and Muslims were generally peaceful before the flood of refugees came in before and after the war. I guess tensions rose in the Arab community when the Mandate gave them a slight majority of the land, despite Arabs being the population majority.

ಠ_ಠ · August 07, 2014, 04:56:41 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM

"Let's settle in a region populated for 1,500 years by the same people who forcibly kicked us out before. This won't end incredibly one-sidedly."

You know, it really wasn't their decision. Blame the UN.
Also isn't it considered "holy land" to both sides? It would make sense why they both want it.

Reciffo_Smmoc · August 07, 2014, 04:59:16 PM

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Spook · August 07, 2014, 05:42:59 PM

Quote from: Weed Commando on August 07, 2014, 04:59:16 PM

Goddammit. Not even 2 years in, and then the UN makes a terrible mistake.

Precisely.

They had good intentions and it's created this.

Yet at the beginning of this entire thread people were saying the bloodthirsty Jews did all this on their own, invading, raping, pillaging and destroying.

Common sense is beginning to prevail!

Super Irish · August 07, 2014, 06:13:22 PM

Quote from: Spook on August 07, 2014, 05:42:59 PM

Precisely.

They had good intentions and it's created this.

Yet at the beginning of this entire thread people were saying the bloodthirsty Jews did all this on their own, invading, raping, pillaging and destroying.

Common sense is beginning to prevail!

Just because they weren't bad then doesn't absolve them of their sins now. (Neither does it for Hamas either)

Spook · August 07, 2014, 06:39:30 PM

Quote from: SuperIrish on August 07, 2014, 06:13:22 PM

Just because they weren't bad then doesn't absolve them of their sins now. (Neither does it for Hamas either)

I couldn't agree more.

I at no stage said to forgive either side for what has occurred. My role has always been devil's advocate. To show the other side of the coin/story. The truths and realities that people ignore because it simply doesn't suit their opinion.

Super Irish · August 07, 2014, 06:44:36 PM

Quote from: Spook on August 07, 2014, 06:39:30 PM

I couldn't agree more.

I at no stage said to forgive either side for what has occurred. My role has always been devil's advocate. To show the other side of the coin/story. The truths and realities that people ignore because it simply doesn't suit their opinion.

You may be playing devil's advocate, but it comes across as very pro-Israel.

I think we can agree, both are bastards.

ಠ_ಠ · August 07, 2014, 06:45:37 PM

Quote from: Spook on August 07, 2014, 06:39:30 PM

I couldn't agree more.

I at no stage said to forgive either side for what has occurred. My role has always been devil's advocate. To show the other side of the coin/story. The truths and realities that people ignore because it simply doesn't suit their opinion.

Exactly. People ignore the facts that they don't like, but it really only serves to perpetuate the problem. If you want to fix an issue, you gotta consider everything from both sides.