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God that pisses me off, it's basically a death sentence for holding the wrong views.

However, even if this is a joke it's scary. What I'm scared for is the false negatives.


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God that pisses me off, it's basically a death sentence for holding the wrong views.

However, even if this is a joke it's scary. What I'm scared for is the false negatives.

I can already see ways to abuse if it came to fruition. Are you in a competition with another company for a contract? It would be a shame if someone accused your competitor of hiring racists.


 
 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
and the more we encourage women to take different roles, the more likely these leanings will be bred out over the next several generations.
That's a scary level of social engineering for the government to involve itself with. Freer and more equal countries see greater personality differences and labour market auto-segregation because liberty enables people to express their gender.

And here we are, in the freest countries on the planet, fretting that we don't have a female comp student proportion close to countries like fucking Guyana (54%) or Zimbabwe (41%). It's ridiculous.


 
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How about this guy focuses on his job instead of posting a /pol/ tier "manifesto" lmao

Get a life dude how did he even find the time to do this
I saw no call to de-jew coorperate america nor did it look like this took him long to type up.
Try again.


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Are there gender quotas in Coal mining / forges / trash disposal / construction?

There should be, right? Oh no, only white collar + comfortable office jobs implement these. Cucks.
If you have a fucking diversity department, why do you hate acknowledging diversity? Why do you fire someone for highlighting diversity etc?


 
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and the more we encourage women to take different roles, the more likely these leanings will be bred out over the next several generations.
That's a scary level of social engineering for the government to involve itself with. Freer and more equal countries see greater personality differences and labour market auto-segregation because liberty enables people to express their gender.

And here we are, in the freest countries on the planet, fretting that we don't have a female comp student proportion close to countries like fucking Guyana (54%) or Zimbabwe (41%). It's ridiculous.

I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.


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I don't see many people (if any at all) mention the lack of males in nursing fields, which is a pretty high end job yet only 10% are males. Want to know why I'm not trying to be a nurse? Because it doesn't interest me.

Not only is this a shitty PR stunt, but it's another stupid attempt at trying to force a square peg through a round hole. You can start young and train girls to be engineers when they grow up, but can anyone guarantee they'll be happy and that it would what they want? What's the point of gloating about how many females and minorities are in your tech department if they all hate their job and would've rather done something else in life?

No, because their sole purpose is to give women or minority groups a way into typically high end corporate jobs that they want but otherwise find pretty inaccessible. If there's no need for quotas in certain fields, there's not going to be any.


 
 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.
Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.
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I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.
Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.

lol what


 
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I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.
Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.

lol what
There isn't a real way to enact quotas across the nation without governmental orders.


 
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I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.
Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.

lol what
There isn't a real way to enact quotas across the nation without governmental orders.

i didn't say anything about quotas

im just saying that as a society we should be encouraging women to break the mold of their predispositions rather than just accepting them as unchangable.

the guy should be allowed his opinion just as google should be allowed (and justified) in firing him when he publicly makes his opinion known in the fashion he did

its just another case of people failing to stay in their lanes if you ask me
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.
Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.

lol what
There isn't a real way to enact quotas across the nation without governmental orders.

i didn't say anything about quotas

im just saying that as a society we should be encouraging women to break the mold of their predispositions rather than just accepting them as unchangable.

the guy should be allowed his opinion just as google should be allowed (and justified) in firing him when he publicly makes his opinion known in thw fashiom he did

its just another case of people failing to stay in their lanes if you ask me
Welcome and encourage, yes.
Discriminate to enforce a diverse office, no.

Affermative action is a failed concept.


 
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Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.

lol what
There isn't a real way to enact quotas across the nation without governmental orders.

i didn't say anything about quotas

im just saying that as a society we should be encouraging women to break the mold of their predispositions rather than just accepting them as unchangable.

the guy should be allowed his opinion just as google should be allowed (and justified) in firing him when he publicly makes his opinion known in thw fashiom he did

its just another case of people failing to stay in their lanes if you ask me
Welcome and encourage, yes.
Discriminate to enforce a diverse office, no.

Affermative action is a failed concept.

No one suggested otherwise.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I don't see what the government has to do with what you quoted.
Ah, yes, peer pressure.

That will solve auto-segregation, and is certainly strong enough by itself to have an evolutionary effect through selective breeding.

lol what
There isn't a real way to enact quotas across the nation without governmental orders.

i didn't say anything about quotas

im just saying that as a society we should be encouraging women to break the mold of their predispositions rather than just accepting them as unchangable.

the guy should be allowed his opinion just as google should be allowed (and justified) in firing him when he publicly makes his opinion known in thw fashiom he did

its just another case of people failing to stay in their lanes if you ask me
Welcome and encourage, yes.
Discriminate to enforce a diverse office, no.

Affermative action is a failed concept.

No one suggested otherwise.
So you agree with the point of Damore's memo then


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I don't see many people (if any at all) mention the lack of males in nursing fields, which is a pretty high end job yet only 10% are males.
Of course things are going to look this way if you never make any effort to get involved in discussions with academic feminists.

If you want to wonder if any at all people talk about it, I'll gladly tell you I talk about it probably more often than women in STEM. Alongside nursing, childhood education is horrifically sparse of men, and that's a legitimate problem contributing to the growing deficit between boys and girls in school. And in the situation of school it is almost undeniable how much external cultural forces influence men's desire to go into the field. Pedophilia scares regularly and unfairly target men to the point where some districts enforce draconian liability policies like not allowing men to be sole supervisors of minors. Anyone who continues to deny the ability of society to disincentivize demographics in certain lines of work is simply plugging their ears to hide from the scarey world called reality.

This is completely ignoring the immense pressure put on men to be independent earners, and often having their value as a person tied to their wealth. That kind of pressure will obviously lead men into fields that pay, regardless of hardship or dislike of the work. Which probably contributes to the atrocious male suicide rate.

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Want to know why I'm not trying to be a nurse? Because it doesn't interest me.
Brilliant deduction. I never realized that men had such homogeneous psyches that your emotional situation can be an accurate description of all men's emotions.

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Not only is this a shitty PR stunt, but it's another stupid attempt at trying to force a square peg through a round hole. You can start young and train girls to be engineers when they grow up, but can anyone guarantee they'll be happy and that it would what they want?
That's what we want to investigate and see if it is possible. Your position seems to be completely dedicated to resisting any attempts at discovery of whether or not that is possible, because if it turns out it is, that would upset the natural order you have delusionally convinced yourself is innate and independent of outside influence.

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What's the point of gloating about how many females and minorities are in your tech department if they all hate their job and would've rather done something else in life?

I don't think there's a single person in this world who advocates pressuring people into industries they do no want to be in. This is where you've entered strawman territory.
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get into field Y but is met with a lot of prejudice and obstacles. Quotas (which I don't even agree with much) can help. Few people in group A want to get into field B and are met with very little resistance when they do try. Quotas are not at all necessary, so they're not used. Apples and pears.

What actual resistances are they facing en masse outside of of their own uninterest? And quotas aren't being used not because their unnecessary, they're not being used because it's illegal. At least, its illegal to use hard numbers, for whatever reason companies and universities are still allowed to bullshit vague estimates.

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I'd hardly call listening to the complaints of many of your employees and avoiding even more negative PR a "stunt" though. And who's even talking about training young girls or women not being happy in their field? Giving them more opportunities doesn't really harm anyone.

If you're in a high end office job that ISN'T HR and your only complaint is that you think there's too many white dudes working there, you really shouldn't be working there. Because that's not what you're getting paid to do.


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Brilliant deduction. I never realized that men had such homogeneous psyches that your emotional situation can be an accurate description of all men's emotions.


Good job missing my point.

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That's what we want to investigate and see if it is possible. Your position seems to be completely dedicated to resisting any attempts at discovery of whether or not that is possible, because if it turns out it is, that would upset the natural order you have delusionally convinced yourself is innate and independent of outside influence.

What's stopping them from being interested in those fields now other than their own uninterest? They're forced to take math and science regardless, if they have a love for it they'll go into it as they progress through the education system.

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I don't think there's a single person in this world who advocates pressuring people into industries they do no want to be in. This is where you've entered strawman territory.

You literally just said that men are coerced to be independent earners and that pressures them into high paying careers. This is contradiction territory.
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Good job missing my point.
Unless you thought I was trying to say no men choose a field based on interests, or that no men's interests are innate rather than socially influenced, then no, I addressed your point.

>i feel this way

Doesn't meaningfully address my argument unless you made the assumption above

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What's stopping them from being interested in those fields now other than their own uninterest? They're forced to take math and science regardless, if they have a love for it they'll go into it as they progress through the education system.
Do you ever take a moment to consider that maybe interests are formed through societal forces in a non-zero number of instances? Would I have an interest in video games if I lived in 1494? Would someone who was born on an isolated island alone with no one else have an interest in politics?

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You literally just said that men are coerced to be independent earners and that pressures them into high paying careers. This is contradiction territory.

Who advocates for that? I didn't say it doesn't happen. I said no one wants that to happen.

Well.

Maybe social conservatives do.

I don't consider them humans.


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I never realized that men had such homogeneous psyches that your emotional situation can be an accurate description of all men's emotions.
lmao

did he forget or something?


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Everyone seems to still miss the point. Him having these views didn't get him fired. He attacked a company policy in an open forum. It doesn't matter which policy he criticized. He got fired for how he did it.