If he said this ten-17 years ago would he have gotten fired over it? To me the reason why is due to this "social justice warrior" mentality we have now. It's a different subject to talk about, but I'm going to bring up Gone Home. If that game came out ten years earlier as well than it most likely would have been considered mediocre, which it is and it wouldn't have been getting the praise it's getting now. As a society we are now getting butthurt over the littlest of things and we are praising things or people like Bruce Jenner simply because they involve the LGBT. There is nothing heroic about what Bruce Jenner did to his body, but people are considering him "heroic" all because he got a sex change.

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If he said this ten-17 years ago would he have gotten fired over it? To me the reason why is due to this "social justice warrior" mentality we have now. It's a different subject to talk about, but I'm going to bring up Gone Home. If that game came out ten years earlier as well than it most likely would have been considered mediocre, which it is and it wouldn't have been getting the praise it's getting now. As a society we are now getting butthurt over the littlest of things and we are praising things or people like Bruce Jenner simply because they involve the LGBT. There is nothing heroic about what Bruce Jenner did to his body but people are considering him "heroic" all because he got a sex change.

I never got this with 'pride parades'. If you are born this way, what exactly are you proud of? Now if you live like this by choice then you can be proud of it, because you chose to do so.

Like I cannot be proud to have two testicle. I was born with them.

do you feel the same way about patriotism

Being patriotic is a choice. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
Do you mean how someone is proud of the country they are born in? Or proud to have been born in their country?

patriotism can only mean the second thing

i can be proud of luxembourg for affording people the right to die, but i cannot be their patriot

i take it you wouldn't say it's rational to be a patriot then

You have to be proud of your country to be a patriot of it. You also have to push your country to be better if you are a real patriot.

i'm failing to see why this means you can't or shouldn't be proud of your sexuality

you don't choose your sexuality, sure, but you don't choose where you're born either

there are lots of things we're "proud" of that we don't necessarily choose, so it just seems like you're trying to apply an arbitrary standard where there doesn't necessarily need to be one

1 hour between the time the video was posted and the Twitter ban, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

I find it funny how Adam Fletcher makes laughably stupid comments like that, as if he somehow knows if someone is a hostile voice going into an interview. Either he's being incredibly invasive and digging up shit on people before he hires/moves someone to his teams (which I'm sure breaks numerous workplace safety laws), if not then he has no fucking idea and this comment comes off as thuggish and hostile, which does nothing to help his company which has already been suffering a PR disaster for almost half a year now.

I just wish people like him understood that they'll never, ever ban all views you don't like. I mean, what's the point in even fucking living in a world like that? It's just so hilariously stupid....

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1 hour between the time the video was posted and the Twitter ban, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

I don't see why people have a problem with diversity in the first place.

This Adam Fletcher individual (who now is a CEO of another software company) has publicly stated (see above image) that he would never work with/employ certain individuals regardless of their merit.

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He posted it to the whole company.

The. Whole. Company.

Of course he got fired.

Funny how that little detail isn't one of the first things shared

but people try to look offended about "my free speech!!!" even though those same idiots don't understand that does NOT apply to private companies and is only there to ensure the US Government doesn't infringe on it.

People act like he said something reasonable or something subject to actual intelligent debate. You can't really debate something like that with reason when the person just trots out the gate with something so mind numbingly backward. Best you can do is say "you're wrong and here is why", or ask him to come up with whatever proof he can muster, but even then for a massive company like that to indulge him on it would be stupid too.

I should clarify in that I do think there should be ethics and standards, but my main things I thought of (but failed to express I suppose) is that when companies fire people for saying inflammatory things, it seems people say it's oppression of free speech, which it really isn't. Maybe this specific case could have been handled better, yeah, but sending it to everyone was also a big mistake as well. Maybe a suspension would have been better?

That being said, it's not about progressive or not to me. I'm not as liberal as you people honestly paint me out to be. I hate to play the "on the fence" person, but I can despise the progressive left just as much as the right, honestly. Why? Because it seems the further left you get, the more it blurs the line between protection/equality of minorities and suppressing opinions you might not agree with. At least with social progressive things. I'm easily on the left with economic issues.

I don't need to explain the right.

Things should be alright as long as the individual keeps their work/personal life separate. For example, no one is going to higher someone who walks into the office with an SS uniform. But on the same token, if a person is posting anonymously on Stormfront and has no linkage to their work, that is of ZERO concern to the company they work for.

Adam may want there to be a connection so that he can feel morally superior by never interacting with them, but it will never happen. Which is why his comments just come off as stupid instead of actually threatening.

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This Adam Fletcher individual (who now is a CEO of another software company) has publicly stated (see above image) that he would never work with/employ certain individuals regardless of their merit.