Free college would mostly benefit the rich

 
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This report provides new evidence on which groups of students are likely to benefit the most from a policy that eliminates tuition and fees at public colleges and universities. Using nationally representative data on in-state students at public institutions, I find that students from higher income families would receive a disproportionate share of the benefits of free college, largely because they tend to attend more expensive institutions.

Under the Sanders free college proposal, families from the top half of the income distribution would receive 24 percent more in dollar value from eliminating tuition than students from the lower half of the income distribution. The non-tuition costs of attending college, including living expenses, are larger than the costs of tuition and fees for most students. Free college, which does not address these expenses, leaves families from the bottom half of the income distribution with nearly $18 billion in annual out-of-pocket college costs that would not be covered by existing federal, state, and institutional grant programs. Devoting new spending to eliminating tuition for all students involves a tradeoff with investing the same funds in targeted grant aid that would cover more of the total costs of attendance for students from less well-off families.


 
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Well fuck, son.

Let's just maybe start with subsidizing community colleges, if we do anything at all.


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They attend higher ranking institutions because they have the money advantage of focusing on their education in high school in the first place. I don't really understand why we're trying to make college free when we still haven't made high school completely free, what with books and all.


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They attend higher ranking institutions because they have the money advantage of focusing on their education in high school in the first place. I don't really understand why we're trying to make college free when we still haven't made high school completely free, what with books and all.
never heard of a highschool charging for books in my life, and both my grandparents were teachers and my mom works at 3 different schools. Hell one of my friends old high schools gave them MacBooks for the 4 years they were there.

What backwards ass school did you go to?


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I guess this applies to the UK too then, but while it may benefit the rich more, does it matter if it benefits the poor anyway?

Going against something you might need because someone else benefits more from it than you do kinda seems a silly reason to oppose it.
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They attend higher ranking institutions because they have the money advantage of focusing on their education in high school in the first place. I don't really understand why we're trying to make college free when we still haven't made high school completely free, what with books and all.
never heard of a highschool charging for books in my life, and both my grandparents were teachers and my mom works at 3 different schools. Hell one of my friends old high schools gave them MacBooks for the 4 years they were there.

What backwards ass school did you go to?
Sometimes the school doesn't want to buy copies of certain novels for all the students in a class because football is more importanter. So you gotta shell out 10 bucks for some required reading once a year, if that.


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Yeah but "increased funds for grants targeted at low-income families" just isn't as flashy as "free college tuition everywhere for everyone".


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That's a shame (and also a given), but we still need to have it.


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That's a shame (and also a given), but we still need to have it.

Even though smarter policies could use the same amount of money (or significantly less) and benefit more low-income students and generally be more effective?


 
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That's a shame (and also a given), but we still need to have it.
Even though smarter policies could use the same amount of money (or significantly less) and benefit more low-income students and generally be more effective?
I guess it depends on what those smarter policies would be, and how they could possibly manage to do that without some sort of glaring catch. I don't have a great imagination, so help me out.
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That's a shame (and also a given), but we still need to have it.
Even though smarter policies could use the same amount of money (or significantly less) and benefit more low-income students and generally be more effective?
I guess it depends on what those smarter policies would be, and how they could possibly manage to do that without some sort of glaring catch. I don't have a great imagination, so help me out.

Just like it mentions in the article, increased funding for low income-targeted grants would see more federal money going to people that need it, rather than disproportionately benefiting people that can  more easily pay for college.

As far as I'm aware, Bernie hasn't placed these stipulations on his plan.


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They attend higher ranking institutions because they have the money advantage of focusing on their education in high school in the first place. I don't really understand why we're trying to make college free when we still haven't made high school completely free, what with books and all.
never heard of a highschool charging for books in my life, and both my grandparents were teachers and my mom works at 3 different schools. Hell one of my friends old high schools gave them MacBooks for the 4 years they were there.

What backwards ass school did you go to?
Sometimes the school doesn't want to buy copies of certain novels for all the students in a class because football is more importanter. So you gotta shell out 10 bucks for some required reading once a year, if that.
Ten bucks?

We have to pay at least thirty for each school book, about fifty or so for AP ones. I think my fee this year was around 310.