2, 3, and 4 can be fixed by fucking moving. stop being stubborn and just leave.
Quote from: RC5908 on November 28, 2014, 11:16:44 AM2, 3, and 4 can be fixed by fucking moving. stop being stubborn and just leave.No RC, they can't. Becuase number one, I don't like cities. Number two, I don't even enjoy small towns that much. Number 3, I live in Canada. Anywhere I go is the same damn thing for 8 fucking months of the year except for the extreme coasts, which still manage to get 8 months of rain and snow instead. Number four, if I left, all the stuff I'm keeping glued together behind me would collapse. So no RC, simply packing up my shit and moving off to some shiny nice trap of a city would not fix everything. In fact it would probably kill me faster.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 28, 2014, 11:20:24 AMQuote from: RC5908 on November 28, 2014, 11:16:44 AM2, 3, and 4 can be fixed by fucking moving. stop being stubborn and just leave.No RC, they can't. Becuase number one, I don't like cities. Number two, I don't even enjoy small towns that much. Number 3, I live in Canada. Anywhere I go is the same damn thing for 8 fucking months of the year except for the extreme coasts, which still manage to get 8 months of rain and snow instead. Number four, if I left, all the stuff I'm keeping glued together behind me would collapse. So no RC, simply packing up my shit and moving off to some shiny nice trap of a city would not fix everything. In fact it would probably kill me faster.1: the world isn't just rural farmland and cities. there's everything in between.2: if you aren't willing to do what you need to to fix your problems, you don't have the right to complain about them.
Think of it this way. Wouldn't you rather see if you can achieve your dreams and at least die having achieved them? When you die, you die. You won't be regretting things for very long and you shouldn't be regretting anything either way. Leave the world when it's your time. We all have struggles, and I've been in a very similar situation. I know the feeling you have and I wanted to kill myself for a while. When a train came by I imagined jumping in front of it. But it's not right. I'm never thinking like that again. We have to tough it out because we CAN tough it out. If worst comes to worst at least you tried, and there's no shame in trying. You can go peacefully.
A gym membership can do wonders for cases of cabin fever (I've been stuck in winter conditions where my whole town was cut off from the rest of the world for a whole week, the gym helps wonders with keeping your mind clear), and relieving stress. that's two of your walls right there, I know this from experience.Also, gyms are social, find friends through that and you'll have 3 walls gone.
is the lump of cancer in my noggin. A dormant tumor that will one day start growing
Quote from: Mega Sceptile on November 28, 2014, 02:23:26 PMA gym membership can do wonders for cases of cabin fever (I've been stuck in winter conditions where my whole town was cut off from the rest of the world for a whole week, the gym helps wonders with keeping your mind clear), and relieving stress. that's two of your walls right there, I know this from experience.Also, gyms are social, find friends through that and you'll have 3 walls gone.No gyms in this town amigo.
...so whatever happened to Quiet?
Can you give me one good reason why I should wait?
Move to Arizona, it's like 40 degrees at night and 70 during the day, you can even still go swimming if the pool's in sunlight all day. Water's warm enough to scuba dive, no legit snow on record in decades, and tons of stuff to do. Also, it's in America.Quoteis the lump of cancer in my noggin. A dormant tumor that will one day start growingSo it's benign? Unless it becomes malignant, you're good to go.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 28, 2014, 02:52:02 PMQuote from: Mega Sceptile on November 28, 2014, 02:23:26 PMA gym membership can do wonders for cases of cabin fever (I've been stuck in winter conditions where my whole town was cut off from the rest of the world for a whole week, the gym helps wonders with keeping your mind clear), and relieving stress. that's two of your walls right there, I know this from experience.Also, gyms are social, find friends through that and you'll have 3 walls gone.No gyms in this town amigo.well then just work out, go for daily jogs through town, practice shadow boxing, get a weight set, anything to keep your mind off of depressing shit like you are thinking of with this four walls BS.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:39:46 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.You should really consider just moving closer to him or something. Get over this fear of cities you have and just...get out there. More job opportunities, more people. Maybe even some new friendly faces.
Quote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:51:12 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:43:36 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:39:46 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.You should really consider just moving closer to him or something. Get over this fear of cities you have and just...get out there. More job opportunities, more people. Maybe even some new friendly faces.It's not a fear. It's a fact. Cities are traps, plain and simple. Going over to one of em' up here wouldn't change anything. And, I can see the way things are going. Quiet's a good dude. But he's going his own way. Not a way I can or will follow.I'll always have an open door. But that doesn't change the fact that things have been drifting apart for a few years now.That's fear talking, man. Living in or near a city isn't as bad as you're making it sound. And I'm suggesting you move closer so that you can still spend time with your buddy on off days. You're a really nice person, but you really need to get out there and meet new people in the real world.
Quote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:43:36 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:39:46 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.You should really consider just moving closer to him or something. Get over this fear of cities you have and just...get out there. More job opportunities, more people. Maybe even some new friendly faces.It's not a fear. It's a fact. Cities are traps, plain and simple. Going over to one of em' up here wouldn't change anything. And, I can see the way things are going. Quiet's a good dude. But he's going his own way. Not a way I can or will follow.I'll always have an open door. But that doesn't change the fact that things have been drifting apart for a few years now.
Quote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 03:03:45 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:51:12 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:43:36 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:39:46 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.You should really consider just moving closer to him or something. Get over this fear of cities you have and just...get out there. More job opportunities, more people. Maybe even some new friendly faces.It's not a fear. It's a fact. Cities are traps, plain and simple. Going over to one of em' up here wouldn't change anything. And, I can see the way things are going. Quiet's a good dude. But he's going his own way. Not a way I can or will follow.I'll always have an open door. But that doesn't change the fact that things have been drifting apart for a few years now.That's fear talking, man. Living in or near a city isn't as bad as you're making it sound. And I'm suggesting you move closer so that you can still spend time with your buddy on off days. You're a really nice person, but you really need to get out there and meet new people in the real world.Okay. Here's the view on things. Here's what I've seen in my life. Here's what I've learned by watching.Cities are okay. They're like snowglobes. Nice to look at. But not nice to live in. That's why I take trips. I go on out, get all the nice fancy shit I want, and then I leave. But here's the facts.In order to function, cities need people. So, how do you get them filled with people? Two things. Money. And stuff. Stuff that you can't get outside of a city. Stuff that makes you feel safe, secure, and comfortable. Basically, a city says, "Okay dudes, if you live here, you get all this cool stuff, and you get the money to buy it."And here's what that does to people. Wasted lives. And you can't refute that because I can read people. I watch them, and I see where they're at. Everybody on my construction job? They were dead inside. And not because of the labor. They were dead, because this was their life.Earn money, buy shit that they think will make them happy, rinse and repeat. At 40 years old, most of them were burnt out. They smoked. They drank. They did drugs. Because that's all they had. As people, they were dead. Just a body waiting to die.And I see it wherever I go.So, here's the thing. I'm quiet. I don't party. Don't go out too often. If I was in a city, you'd probably only ever spot me in a library, or a quiet coffee shop. I don't buy shit. Because I'm a simple person. Doesn't take much to make me happy.So, here's what would happen if I went into a city to live there.1. I'd get caught in the money trap. Money to pay for the bills to live there and get access to all the spiffy stuff.2. I'd get stuck in the job trap. When I work Nuka, I work. If I was ever going to have a job, it would be one where I have to move my ass. And if you spend too long on those jobs, you hit an off switch.My days off would be spent healing and getting ready for the next shift of the job. I wouldn't do anything I enjoy, because there'd be no point. I'd only have, at the most, two days to do it. And I'd need all the time available to recover.So in a city, I'd be dead as a person.And now, here's the kicker. I don't mean to come across as insulting.But your world, is different from mine. My reality, is different from yours. And you don't see that because you live in a city.If you came up here, to where I live, you wouldn't even know where to start. None of you would. The only people up here who might even stand a chance of fitting in would be fellow Canadians. And even then, that's not a sure thing, because most of the canadian folks here live in cities.This is my reality. I greatly enjoy peace and quiet. I detest crowds, and people. I work hard for what I make, but I don't kill myself over it. I enjoy my hobbies and try to get as much enjoyment out of my time that I have. Because that's what life should be.Not a job. Not socializing. And certainly not after the aimless pursuit of money. So, ask yourself, how would I find a friend? How would I find somebody like me? I'd have to keep my eyes sharp. Because somebody like me wouldn't appear often. They'd be quiet, and withdrawn from the crowd. Doing their own thing.And if I spotted them, I'd have to jump. Because knowing me, I wouldn't take the first step. My best chances are here. And most of all, I can't turn my back on my family. Because they need help. And they will need help. And money, money can't help or offer them what the need.My mother's had a hard life. And it's left its marks on her. She's buried the scars too deep. But I can influence her, slowly. I can turn her attitude and misery around with humor. I can diffuse her anger.My brother in law? He's old. I can help him when he needs another pair of hands.My sister? She's blind. When her husband dies, everybody in the area will convince her to move off her farm. And she never will. And she can do it, believe me. But she'll need support. I'm the on;y one who can give that to her.My little neice? She'll need her uncle to watch her back when she's older, in place of her father. And she'll need a friend, because she's as different as I am.I can do more here, by staying in the area for all of these people, than I can by going out and making money. Because all of us currently make money anyway. Not a lot. But enough to get by as we need it. And if we need more, we get it.I live a world apart from you. And it's not an easy one to live in some days. But it's worth it, over the alternative that modern society offers.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 03:29:55 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 03:03:45 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:51:12 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:43:36 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:39:46 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.You should really consider just moving closer to him or something. Get over this fear of cities you have and just...get out there. More job opportunities, more people. Maybe even some new friendly faces.It's not a fear. It's a fact. Cities are traps, plain and simple. Going over to one of em' up here wouldn't change anything. And, I can see the way things are going. Quiet's a good dude. But he's going his own way. Not a way I can or will follow.I'll always have an open door. But that doesn't change the fact that things have been drifting apart for a few years now.That's fear talking, man. Living in or near a city isn't as bad as you're making it sound. And I'm suggesting you move closer so that you can still spend time with your buddy on off days. You're a really nice person, but you really need to get out there and meet new people in the real world.Okay. Here's the view on things. Here's what I've seen in my life. Here's what I've learned by watching.Cities are okay. They're like snowglobes. Nice to look at. But not nice to live in. That's why I take trips. I go on out, get all the nice fancy shit I want, and then I leave. But here's the facts.In order to function, cities need people. So, how do you get them filled with people? Two things. Money. And stuff. Stuff that you can't get outside of a city. Stuff that makes you feel safe, secure, and comfortable. Basically, a city says, "Okay dudes, if you live here, you get all this cool stuff, and you get the money to buy it."And here's what that does to people. Wasted lives. And you can't refute that because I can read people. I watch them, and I see where they're at. Everybody on my construction job? They were dead inside. And not because of the labor. They were dead, because this was their life.Earn money, buy shit that they think will make them happy, rinse and repeat. At 40 years old, most of them were burnt out. They smoked. They drank. They did drugs. Because that's all they had. As people, they were dead. Just a body waiting to die.And I see it wherever I go.So, here's the thing. I'm quiet. I don't party. Don't go out too often. If I was in a city, you'd probably only ever spot me in a library, or a quiet coffee shop. I don't buy shit. Because I'm a simple person. Doesn't take much to make me happy.So, here's what would happen if I went into a city to live there.1. I'd get caught in the money trap. Money to pay for the bills to live there and get access to all the spiffy stuff.2. I'd get stuck in the job trap. When I work Nuka, I work. If I was ever going to have a job, it would be one where I have to move my ass. And if you spend too long on those jobs, you hit an off switch.My days off would be spent healing and getting ready for the next shift of the job. I wouldn't do anything I enjoy, because there'd be no point. I'd only have, at the most, two days to do it. And I'd need all the time available to recover.So in a city, I'd be dead as a person.And now, here's the kicker. I don't mean to come across as insulting.But your world, is different from mine. My reality, is different from yours. And you don't see that because you live in a city.If you came up here, to where I live, you wouldn't even know where to start. None of you would. The only people up here who might even stand a chance of fitting in would be fellow Canadians. And even then, that's not a sure thing, because most of the canadian folks here live in cities.This is my reality. I greatly enjoy peace and quiet. I detest crowds, and people. I work hard for what I make, but I don't kill myself over it. I enjoy my hobbies and try to get as much enjoyment out of my time that I have. Because that's what life should be.Not a job. Not socializing. And certainly not after the aimless pursuit of money. So, ask yourself, how would I find a friend? How would I find somebody like me? I'd have to keep my eyes sharp. Because somebody like me wouldn't appear often. They'd be quiet, and withdrawn from the crowd. Doing their own thing.And if I spotted them, I'd have to jump. Because knowing me, I wouldn't take the first step. My best chances are here. And most of all, I can't turn my back on my family. Because they need help. And they will need help. And money, money can't help or offer them what the need.My mother's had a hard life. And it's left its marks on her. She's buried the scars too deep. But I can influence her, slowly. I can turn her attitude and misery around with humor. I can diffuse her anger.My brother in law? He's old. I can help him when he needs another pair of hands.My sister? She's blind. When her husband dies, everybody in the area will convince her to move off her farm. And she never will. And she can do it, believe me. But she'll need support. I'm the on;y one who can give that to her.My little neice? She'll need her uncle to watch her back when she's older, in place of her father. And she'll need a friend, because she's as different as I am.I can do more here, by staying in the area for all of these people, than I can by going out and making money. Because all of us currently make money anyway. Not a lot. But enough to get by as we need it. And if we need more, we get it.I live a world apart from you. And it's not an easy one to live in some days. But it's worth it, over the alternative that modern society offers.Cities aren't that bad. The fact that you are aware they are a trap, gives you an advantage.You feel alone? Not anymore, you are surrounded by people.And you will find someone in the crowd who is like you. And you don't have to find somebody just like you. Differences make conversations interesting too.You like working hard, but not to death. You can find a physical job in a city. If you don't want a physical job, plenty of those too.You may not like it, but the city may be good for you Sandtrap.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 29, 2014, 03:42:25 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 03:29:55 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 03:03:45 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:51:12 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:43:36 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 29, 2014, 02:39:46 AMQuote from: Nuka on November 29, 2014, 02:18:21 AM...so whatever happened to Quiet?Quiet's far away now. About 6 hours away. He moved off from his town and into the city, roughly two weeks ago. Up here, it's just little old me now.You should really consider just moving closer to him or something. Get over this fear of cities you have and just...get out there. More job opportunities, more people. Maybe even some new friendly faces.It's not a fear. It's a fact. Cities are traps, plain and simple. Going over to one of em' up here wouldn't change anything. And, I can see the way things are going. Quiet's a good dude. But he's going his own way. Not a way I can or will follow.I'll always have an open door. But that doesn't change the fact that things have been drifting apart for a few years now.That's fear talking, man. Living in or near a city isn't as bad as you're making it sound. And I'm suggesting you move closer so that you can still spend time with your buddy on off days. You're a really nice person, but you really need to get out there and meet new people in the real world.Okay. Here's the view on things. Here's what I've seen in my life. Here's what I've learned by watching.Cities are okay. They're like snowglobes. Nice to look at. But not nice to live in. That's why I take trips. I go on out, get all the nice fancy shit I want, and then I leave. But here's the facts.In order to function, cities need people. So, how do you get them filled with people? Two things. Money. And stuff. Stuff that you can't get outside of a city. Stuff that makes you feel safe, secure, and comfortable. Basically, a city says, "Okay dudes, if you live here, you get all this cool stuff, and you get the money to buy it."And here's what that does to people. Wasted lives. And you can't refute that because I can read people. I watch them, and I see where they're at. Everybody on my construction job? They were dead inside. And not because of the labor. They were dead, because this was their life.Earn money, buy shit that they think will make them happy, rinse and repeat. At 40 years old, most of them were burnt out. They smoked. They drank. They did drugs. Because that's all they had. As people, they were dead. Just a body waiting to die.And I see it wherever I go.So, here's the thing. I'm quiet. I don't party. Don't go out too often. If I was in a city, you'd probably only ever spot me in a library, or a quiet coffee shop. I don't buy shit. Because I'm a simple person. Doesn't take much to make me happy.So, here's what would happen if I went into a city to live there.1. I'd get caught in the money trap. Money to pay for the bills to live there and get access to all the spiffy stuff.2. I'd get stuck in the job trap. When I work Nuka, I work. If I was ever going to have a job, it would be one where I have to move my ass. And if you spend too long on those jobs, you hit an off switch.My days off would be spent healing and getting ready for the next shift of the job. I wouldn't do anything I enjoy, because there'd be no point. I'd only have, at the most, two days to do it. And I'd need all the time available to recover.So in a city, I'd be dead as a person.And now, here's the kicker. I don't mean to come across as insulting.But your world, is different from mine. My reality, is different from yours. And you don't see that because you live in a city.If you came up here, to where I live, you wouldn't even know where to start. None of you would. The only people up here who might even stand a chance of fitting in would be fellow Canadians. And even then, that's not a sure thing, because most of the canadian folks here live in cities.This is my reality. I greatly enjoy peace and quiet. I detest crowds, and people. I work hard for what I make, but I don't kill myself over it. I enjoy my hobbies and try to get as much enjoyment out of my time that I have. Because that's what life should be.Not a job. Not socializing. And certainly not after the aimless pursuit of money. So, ask yourself, how would I find a friend? How would I find somebody like me? I'd have to keep my eyes sharp. Because somebody like me wouldn't appear often. They'd be quiet, and withdrawn from the crowd. Doing their own thing.And if I spotted them, I'd have to jump. Because knowing me, I wouldn't take the first step. My best chances are here. And most of all, I can't turn my back on my family. Because they need help. And they will need help. And money, money can't help or offer them what the need.My mother's had a hard life. And it's left its marks on her. She's buried the scars too deep. But I can influence her, slowly. I can turn her attitude and misery around with humor. I can diffuse her anger.My brother in law? He's old. I can help him when he needs another pair of hands.My sister? She's blind. When her husband dies, everybody in the area will convince her to move off her farm. And she never will. And she can do it, believe me. But she'll need support. I'm the on;y one who can give that to her.My little neice? She'll need her uncle to watch her back when she's older, in place of her father. And she'll need a friend, because she's as different as I am.I can do more here, by staying in the area for all of these people, than I can by going out and making money. Because all of us currently make money anyway. Not a lot. But enough to get by as we need it. And if we need more, we get it.I live a world apart from you. And it's not an easy one to live in some days. But it's worth it, over the alternative that modern society offers.Cities aren't that bad. The fact that you are aware they are a trap, gives you an advantage.You feel alone? Not anymore, you are surrounded by people.And you will find someone in the crowd who is like you. And you don't have to find somebody just like you. Differences make conversations interesting too.You like working hard, but not to death. You can find a physical job in a city. If you don't want a physical job, plenty of those too.You may not like it, but the city may be good for you Sandtrap.The only thing I can say to this, is that I've gone over it again and again. Staying here is where I can do best. But it's certainly not easy.But, the primary concern is, when you live in a city, you get comfortable. And when you get comfortable, you leave yourself open to have the rug pulled out from under you.There are power outages up here. Our cities are remote, spread far apart from one another, and only connected through a few sparse roads. One good, solid winter snowstorm, and the power is knocked out. Roads are closed.And cities have at the very most, only three days of available food in them. Cities are supply and demand. They are given food as they need it. But they don't have the largest store of it.And second, look at the way the world is going. It's a fucking mess. And one day, that mess is going to explode.