I've never seen why people think "gun control" means "gun ban". Guns are still available to own and use with stricter control, the difference is that it limits the possibility of them being used for malicious purpose.
I've come to realize the pro-gun argument is emotional in nature as opposed to logical and let's face it arguments rooted in emotion are shit. I also used to think Flee was really biased cause "muh europoors don't know about muh freedumz" but he takes a very unbiased approach to the whole thing. I mean pretty much every point in his argument is backed entirely by stats and facts.
extraordinary circumstances
-43% of UK burglaries took place while the residents were present. Less than 9% of US burglaries take place when residents are present.
I see Das liking posts, reading this thread and posting in other threads. If you read this, you were one of the people I was hoping to get a response from, Das. Curious how you feel about this.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:04:48 PMBrahYou should know by now that a licensing system IS a registry, just de facto instead of explicit.And a de facto registry, just like any registry will undoubtedly enable in confiscation.This is unacceptable.I'm totally open to making it more difficult to obtain a weapon for malicious purposes, but I cannot and will not accept any measure that increases a government's, state or federal, capacity to confiscate. So far, all of the measures I've seen proposed do this.The second amendment has a very clear purpose (if you have a basic understanding of English grammar), and there's no real point in having it around if Uncle Sam knows exactly where the people are keeping the means of force.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:33:51 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:04:48 PMBrahYou should know by now that a licensing system IS a registry, just de facto instead of explicit.And a de facto registry, just like any registry will undoubtedly enable in confiscation.This is unacceptable.I'm totally open to making it more difficult to obtain a weapon for malicious purposes, but I cannot and will not accept any measure that increases a government's, state or federal, capacity to confiscate. So far, all of the measures I've seen proposed do this.The second amendment has a very clear purpose (if you have a basic understanding of English grammar), and there's no real point in having it around if Uncle Sam knows exactly where the people are keeping the means of force.Confiscation won't ever happen. The NRA will organize an armed revolt full of crazy right-wingers with TNP patches on their multicam jackets before that happens.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/05/nypd-targets-owners-multi-clip-shotguns-rifles/Confiscation is inevitable within the century if we can't stop this growing trend of European-style cuckoldry in the politically-overpowered urban centers. The cities will drag real America down with them if things don't turn around.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:04:48 PMBrahYou should know by now that a licensing system IS a registry, just de facto instead of explicit.And a de facto registry, just like any registry will undoubtedly enable in confiscation.This is unacceptable.I'm totally open to making it more difficult to obtain a weapon for malicious purposes, but I cannot and will not accept any measure that increases a government's, state or federal, capacity to confiscate. So far, all of the measures I've seen proposed do this.The second amendment has a very clear purpose (if you have a basic understanding of English grammar), and there's no real point in having it around if Uncle Sam knows exactly where the people are keeping the means of force.Confiscation won't ever happen. The NRA will organize an armed revolt full of crazy right-wingers with TNP patches on their multicam jackets before that happens.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:38:09 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 07:36:43 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:33:51 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:04:48 PMBrahYou should know by now that a licensing system IS a registry, just de facto instead of explicit.And a de facto registry, just like any registry will undoubtedly enable in confiscation.This is unacceptable.I'm totally open to making it more difficult to obtain a weapon for malicious purposes, but I cannot and will not accept any measure that increases a government's, state or federal, capacity to confiscate. So far, all of the measures I've seen proposed do this.The second amendment has a very clear purpose (if you have a basic understanding of English grammar), and there's no real point in having it around if Uncle Sam knows exactly where the people are keeping the means of force.Confiscation won't ever happen. The NRA will organize an armed revolt full of crazy right-wingers with TNP patches on their multicam jackets before that happens.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/05/nypd-targets-owners-multi-clip-shotguns-rifles/Confiscation is inevitable within the century if we can't stop this growing trend of European-style cuckoldry in the politically-overpowered urban centers. The cities will drag real America down with them if things don't turn around.>nypdEverything they do is basically criminal anyway.Everything any government institution does is criminal by the very standards of governmentthe notion of crime itself is absurd.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 07:36:43 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:33:51 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 05, 2015, 07:04:48 PMBrahYou should know by now that a licensing system IS a registry, just de facto instead of explicit.And a de facto registry, just like any registry will undoubtedly enable in confiscation.This is unacceptable.I'm totally open to making it more difficult to obtain a weapon for malicious purposes, but I cannot and will not accept any measure that increases a government's, state or federal, capacity to confiscate. So far, all of the measures I've seen proposed do this.The second amendment has a very clear purpose (if you have a basic understanding of English grammar), and there's no real point in having it around if Uncle Sam knows exactly where the people are keeping the means of force.Confiscation won't ever happen. The NRA will organize an armed revolt full of crazy right-wingers with TNP patches on their multicam jackets before that happens.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/05/nypd-targets-owners-multi-clip-shotguns-rifles/Confiscation is inevitable within the century if we can't stop this growing trend of European-style cuckoldry in the politically-overpowered urban centers. The cities will drag real America down with them if things don't turn around.>nypdEverything they do is basically criminal anyway.