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We wouldn't need to have free tuition if the government didn't inject money into the colleges and thus make tuition rate so absurdly high that our entire generation is fucked because of it.

You recognize this but still don't see how catastrophic college subsidization has been, or how it will increase exponentially if colleges are essentially cut a blank check for tuition costs?
I think she's referring to community colleges, not universities. At least that was what Obama was offering. Sanders... I don't even know.

I'm not exceptionally knowledgeable in the field of how tuition works with colleges and all the work arounds in it, but I do know if you're gonna make it "Free", you sure as hell are going to have to find a way to pay for it.


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Obama saved the economy by building more debt than other other president ever


 
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You recognize this but still don't see how catastrophic college subsidization has been, or how it will increase exponentially if colleges are essentially cut a blank check for tuition costs?
catastrophic only for people no one should give a fuck about financially, yes

oh no


 
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Obama saved the economy by building more debt than other other president ever
He saved it from continuing to fall down thanks to Bush, Wallstreet, and leftovers from Reagan. Debt wise, I highly doubt any president will be able to fix it anymore.


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We wouldn't need to have free tuition if the government didn't inject money into the colleges and thus make tuition rate so absurdly high that our entire generation is fucked because of it.

You recognize this but still don't see how catastrophic college subsidization has been, or how it will increase exponentially if colleges are essentially cut a blank check for tuition costs?
I think she's referring to community colleges, not universities. At least that was what Obama was offering. Sanders... I don't even know.

Nah, she wants free tuition for all public colleges, paid for by the wealthy.


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Obama saved the economy by building more debt than other other president ever
He saved it from continuing to fall down thanks to Bush, Wallstreet, and leftovers from Reagan. Debt wise, I highly doubt any president will be able to fix it anymore.

Obama did very little. Bush signed the bailout package well before Obama took office and set most of the recovery in motion. It's not really a partisan thing though, any president would have done it.


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Ya! Fuck successful people!


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do you really believe she can deliver all these promises and not raise taxes on the middle class?


 
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We wouldn't need to have free tuition if the government didn't inject money into the colleges and thus make tuition rate so absurdly high that our entire generation is fucked because of it.

You recognize this but still don't see how catastrophic college subsidization has been, or how it will increase exponentially if colleges are essentially cut a blank check for tuition costs?
I think she's referring to community colleges, not universities. At least that was what Obama was offering. Sanders... I don't even know.

Nah, she wants free tuition for all public colleges, paid for by the wealthy.
Sounds like the Sanders approach

"How are you gonna pay for it?"

'Tax Wallstreet'

"Yeah but what else? That won't pay for it all."

'Listen, you're looking too much into the details.'


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do you really believe she can deliver all these promises and not raise taxes on the middle class?
No, I don't, which is why I'm not voting for her. On its face, it's still objectively better than any of Trump's bright ideas.

But no, I don't actually think she'll deliver on that. It seemed more like baseless pandering to the Sanders crowd to me.
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Obama saved the economy by building more debt than other other president ever
He saved it from continuing to fall down thanks to Bush, Wallstreet, and leftovers from Reagan. Debt wise, I highly doubt any president will be able to fix it anymore.

Obama did very little. Bush signed the bailout package well before Obama took office and set most of the recovery in motion. It's not really a partisan thing though, any president would have done it.
Didn't know the Bush thing. Will read more into it later. I would think Obama still sure as heck helped it via the Stimulus Package, though opinions on that are all over the place.


 
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Trump is smart in wanting to talk about something completely different other than just saying "I DIDN'T DO IT. THEY ALL LIE", while pointing out Billy is bad for it.


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"There is no evidence"
"There is a lot of evidence"

Another lie Hillary got caught in.


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Clinton Foundation: diverts money from Haiti
Trump Foundation: builds a 6 ft Trump portrait


 
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"There is no evidence"
"There is a lot of evidence"

Another lie Hillary got caught in.
Just like Trump is lying right now about his foundation.

They're both pretty bad on this. Notice how both of them want to move away from the accusations with their charities, or work around horribly for it?


 
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"You shoulda changed the law, Hillary!"

Yeah, change the law all by herself in a senate that cannot get anything done. Is Trump this stupid?


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"There is no evidence"
"There is a lot of evidence"

Another lie Hillary got caught in.
Just like Trump is lying right now about his foundation.

They're both pretty bad on this. Notice how both of them want to move away from the accusations with their charities, or work around horribly for it?

He lied about his foundation? how?


 
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Trump outright goes against his running mate and daughters statement.


 
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"The media poisoned the minds of the voters, and it's not my fault at all."

And saying it's rigged even though it's controlled at a state level, a lot of which have governors who want Trump to win. It's quite impossible to rig the election, and anyone who believes so needs to be shot in the face for being so fucking retarded.

But hey, Trumplodytes (i'm using it now) live in some alternate reality where conspiracy theories = true.


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"You shoulda changed the law, Hillary!"

Yeah, change the law all by herself in a senate that cannot get anything done. Is Trump this stupid?

Do senators not have the ability to change law?


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If you can't see that the media, FBI, and election is rigged you're a fucking moron.


 
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"You shoulda changed the law, Hillary!"

Yeah, change the law all by herself in a senate that cannot get anything done. Is Trump this stupid?

Do senators not have the ability to change law?
They have an ability to propose it which would easily get shut down? Like it ALWAYS does? They need 60 votes.


 
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Suddenly, Hillary shoots a silver bullet.


 
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"You shoulda changed the law, Hillary!"

Yeah, change the law all by herself in a senate that cannot get anything done. Is Trump this stupid?

Do senators not have the ability to change law?

Not on their own - sixty senators are required to get anything done.


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This debate is rigged


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"You shoulda changed the law, Hillary!"

Yeah, change the law all by herself in a senate that cannot get anything done. Is Trump this stupid?

Do senators not have the ability to change law?
They have an ability to propose it which would easily get shut down? Like it ALWAYS does?

As the most powerful senator in the democrat controlled congress?