i think it's one of those autism in action campaigns or some shit

Idiot extremists from both sides loudly bickering at each other, and terrorizing normal people to get their attention. Nothing more.

It is about idiocy, and do not use the name "Gamergate". That is an idiotic term to go along with the idiocy to try and make it have more significance, although it has none.

shut the fuck up.

Anyway

here's the fucking deal

The media keeps trying to sensationalize it and make it seem like we're in it to bully women and harass people, but the reality is all we want is journalistic integrity.

Also moot is a traitorous sellout whore.

The problem is a lot of these journalists are using games media as a way to push their social ideology and politics, and they're all in bed with each other, pushing out anyone who won't follow the lead.
Then you have the patreon money getting passed around, and devs sleeping with journalists.
You can't trust anybody's word anymore.

The whole situation is a mess.

I'd also like to explain how we were driven from /v/

Moot, you see, has a girlfriend. This girlfriend works for Gawker media.

It just so happens that Kotaku, the biggest enemy of the GG movement, is owned by Gawker.

I think you can see why he did what he did, now.

He also purged a large number of mods who were against this decision.

>"literally who" ends up in bed with a number of individuals in the industry, including journalists
>whether this was done on purpose for good press is beside the point as a journalist sleeping w/ a source is clearly a breach of ethics
>gamers raise a relatively small stink over it
>gamergate hashtag is created sometime around here
>gaming press paint those that use it as misogynists and begin doubling down on pushing ideology
>gamers go "no, frack you"
>press puts out something like 10 articles in a day all stating the same thing
>clear evidence of collusion
>journalists/SJWs shit up social media
>#notyourshield is created to help minority individuals defend themselves from SJW shit slinging
>Breitbart of all places pick up the situation
>Milo receives GameJournoPros mailing list from unnamed source
>contains more evidence of breaches of ethics
>various people w/in the industry lose their shit
>
>I'm missing stuff here, feel free to fill it in
>
>mainstream media begins "covering" the story
>they cover it in shit


It's a pain but it's necessary.

Basically a whore slept with a bunch of dudes, then her boyfriend posted an article about it subsequently resulting in mass collusion amongst the gaming press to literally denounce gamers and label their identity as gamer as "dead". #NotYourShield starts up and is consistently silenced and ignored by the gaming press.

Harassment was relevant for about two weeks before the gaming press decided to pull their little stunt. At this point everything Gamergate has stood for is journalistic integrity and ethics. No one has yet to prove any causal link between Gamergate and harassment. All abuse we've seen have originated from rogue twitter accounts and trolls. The people trying to sell you this crop of bullshit just want to propagandize and push their disingenuous victim narrative for women.

-Reminder that this is now in serious and is subject to the serious rules-

Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 23, 2014, 05:28:24 PM

I really don't see why me being fed up with Noelle's attitude of "If I don't care you shouldn't either" makes me some kind of extremist.

Well, I do not have that attitude. Even if I did, I care about things that matter, shit like this does not matter.

It's nice that you have opinions. I'm really happy for you. But it seems like you're having some trouble discerning your opinions from actual facts.

Just to double down on Icy's post, this is now on the serious board so mind your manners people >.>

No, u

I haven't been following gamergate for a while now, has the movement even done anything lately? All I know is that people on the anti-gg side have been acting like the fucking inquisition, targeting anyone who's even sympathetic to gamergaters.

well that's not very nice.

Brain damage

I think it's disgusting to send someone death threats.
I think who a person sleeps with is their business.
I think the people attacking Zoe Quinn for 5 guys are pathetic women hating virgins.
I don't think wank provoking female characters in video games is sexist.
I think Tumblr and Anita have just been looking for new people to bitch at.
I don't think publishers should have a say in reviews, *cough* Ubisoft.
Gaming reviews should not be part of the fucking sales tactic

And "Gamer Gate" is not a huge fucking political scandal, stop acting like it is.

I think it's disgusting to send someone death threats.

So does #gamergate.

I think who a person sleeps with is their business.
I think the people attacking Zoe Quinn for 5 guys are pathetic women hating virgins.

As much as the media wants to make it about "muh saw ginny", it's not about suppressing women's sexuality. The issue is that the people she slept with were journalists who wrote about her. If you don't think that is a huge breach of ethics on her part and theirs, you have to be be retarded.

I don't think wank provoking female characters in video games is sexist.

That's not what gamergate is about

I think Tumblr and Anita have just been looking for new people to bitch at.

They're still bitching at the same people they always did, but louder this time, and the people are finally bitching back.

I don't think publishers should have a say in reviews, *cough* Ubisoft.
Gaming reviews should not be part of the fucking sales tactic

Agreed, but this is not what Gamergate is about.

And "Gamer Gate" is not a huge fucking political scandal, stop acting like it is.

It is a major scandal within the gaming industry, and it does involve important political issues, like how the press are basically a club that can do whatever they want and slander or blacklist anyone who speaks up against the agenda. This is true of all press, not just in gaming.

Quote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 23, 2014, 10:33:00 PM

I'm kind of confused why people are so up in arms about video game journalism. Some no-name writer slept with a game dev and wrote a biased piece? Who cares? Publishers influencing reviews from major sources like IGN? Those places are universally regarded as terrible sources of opinions anyway. It's a non-issue of extreme proportions.

goes deeper than just quinn, mang

I'm sure it does, it's just as many videos and commentaries I've watched and read I can't find any semblance of an interest in it. I just don't care about it. Game reviews are hardly objective and hard-hitting, and that's all the scope of gamergate is. I recognize it's important to many people, but I can't relate to that feeling at all. Sorry bruh.