Does torture produce results?

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It certainly can and has, but that doesn't make it right.


 
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It can and has produced results, yes.

That doesn't mean it is something that should be endorsed or supported. 


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It can and has produced results, yes.

That doesn't mean it is something that should be endorsed or supported.
Why not if it produces results?


 
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It can and has produced results, yes.

That doesn't mean it is something that should be endorsed or supported.
Why not if it produces results?

Because there are other options that can and should be explored - options that are less likely to have unintended side effects.

Continuing to do something that violates multiple segments of human rights accords and treaties because it gets us results easiest is, at the most basic root, pure laziness.
Last Edit: April 17, 2016, 03:35:50 PM by Icy


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It can and has produced results, yes.

That doesn't mean it is something that should be endorsed or supported.
Why not if it produces results?

Because there are other options that can and should be explored - options that are less likely to have unintended side effects.

Continuing to do something that violates multiple segments of human rights accords and treaties because it gets us results easiest is, at the most basic root, pure laziness.
And what would these alternative options be?


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Pretty sure it can get a lot of inaccurate information.


 
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It can and has produced results, yes.

That doesn't mean it is something that should be endorsed or supported.
Why not if it produces results?

Because there are other options that can and should be explored - options that are less likely to have unintended side effects.

Continuing to do something that violates multiple segments of human rights accords and treaties because it gets us results easiest is, at the most basic root, pure laziness.
And what would these alternative options be?

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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I thought it was established that the best interrogation method (if you want facts rather than whatever first comes to mind to stop the pain), is by being nice?

Best interrogator of WWII? Hanns Scharff, a man who simply acted as a friend and treated POW's to walks in the woods and allowed visits to other POW's, and apparently has his techniques used by the Americans today.

As already said, torture may produce results but at the cost of human rights, but other less brutal methods are available that are more likely to be more informative while at the cost of some actual effort. Even "truth serums" are considered less inhumane, albeit not considered 100% accurate (and the same effect can be done by withholding sleep, which is probably a lot cheaper).


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yes it does


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I approve of torture.


 
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uhhh...

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Well no duh.

It's not about efficiency, it's about what's right. And torture isn't right.


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It can and has produced results, yes.

That doesn't mean it is something that should be endorsed or supported.
Why not if it produces results?

Because there are other options that can and should be explored - options that are less likely to have unintended side effects.

Continuing to do something that violates multiple segments of human rights accords and treaties because it gets us results easiest is, at the most basic root, pure laziness.
And what would these alternative options be?
Letting people die


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Always.

*said results may not be accurate