Quote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 06:13:20 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:59:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 05:53:39 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:46:40 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.That's one of the most ignorant ways to look at things like this. With forewarning, you can mediate some of the damage and make personal preparations for yourself. Just sitting there like "PFFF LOL ITS GONNA HAPPEN HURRRR" and doing nothing is arrogant. If that's your attitude about any serious problems, you likely deserve all the terrible shit that happens. Passiveness is a disgusting character trait.If you didn't ever notice, I've been living with a setup designed for this. Generators. Solar cells. Knowledge on how to hunt and knowledge of my surrounding area. Storage tanks for water and gas.I already live in an environment that demands forethought. We have power outages for days, we have roads that can close up completely for days, and distance is a factor in anything. We have temperatures for over half of the year that can kill you in under 10 minutes.So yes, having a big collapse doesn't mean shit to me because I already practically live like there is a state of collapse. In which case my only problem these days is money because costs are rising and they aren't stopping. If they keep going up, people around here are going to be in serious shit.I'd actually prefer a crash honestly. No more money troubles. So yes. Your point is still moot. I'll be sitting up here in a lawn chair when, and if it ever happens, watching the fireworks go down.My point is not moot because everyone is not you. If everyone was in a state like yours, then it would be moot.In which case we circle around back to my point. People don't give a fuck. And they never will unless they're slapped upside the head.Rainforests going down by hundreds of acres per second, destroying one of our best sources of natural antibiotics and treatments for diseases on the planet?Nobody gives a fuck or does anything to stop the assholes ripping it down and planting shitty palm oil crop farms that have a maximum of 10 years of life to them.Environment rapidly shifting and altering leading to more abnormal bouts of weather? Nobody gives a fuck.Corporations being total slimeball nickle and dimers down to the last scrap of dust and dead land? Nobody gives a fuck.So yes, your point is moot. Nobody ever cares about their toilet until it stops working. Nobody cares about their electricity, or their water, until they suddenly don't have it. People, most people, are short sighted. Only ever tending to think about the here and now over later. And that's not going to change anytime soon. Sooner or later, something will happen. And people will fall back to what they've always done. They'll either push through, or they won't.You're a completely passive idiot. Nothing is moot about trying to warn people as long as someone may listen. Just because maybe most won't care doesn't mean ALL won't care. Get out of my face with this depressing passive bullshit attitude, it's making me gag.
Quote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:59:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 05:53:39 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:46:40 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.That's one of the most ignorant ways to look at things like this. With forewarning, you can mediate some of the damage and make personal preparations for yourself. Just sitting there like "PFFF LOL ITS GONNA HAPPEN HURRRR" and doing nothing is arrogant. If that's your attitude about any serious problems, you likely deserve all the terrible shit that happens. Passiveness is a disgusting character trait.If you didn't ever notice, I've been living with a setup designed for this. Generators. Solar cells. Knowledge on how to hunt and knowledge of my surrounding area. Storage tanks for water and gas.I already live in an environment that demands forethought. We have power outages for days, we have roads that can close up completely for days, and distance is a factor in anything. We have temperatures for over half of the year that can kill you in under 10 minutes.So yes, having a big collapse doesn't mean shit to me because I already practically live like there is a state of collapse. In which case my only problem these days is money because costs are rising and they aren't stopping. If they keep going up, people around here are going to be in serious shit.I'd actually prefer a crash honestly. No more money troubles. So yes. Your point is still moot. I'll be sitting up here in a lawn chair when, and if it ever happens, watching the fireworks go down.My point is not moot because everyone is not you. If everyone was in a state like yours, then it would be moot.In which case we circle around back to my point. People don't give a fuck. And they never will unless they're slapped upside the head.Rainforests going down by hundreds of acres per second, destroying one of our best sources of natural antibiotics and treatments for diseases on the planet?Nobody gives a fuck or does anything to stop the assholes ripping it down and planting shitty palm oil crop farms that have a maximum of 10 years of life to them.Environment rapidly shifting and altering leading to more abnormal bouts of weather? Nobody gives a fuck.Corporations being total slimeball nickle and dimers down to the last scrap of dust and dead land? Nobody gives a fuck.So yes, your point is moot. Nobody ever cares about their toilet until it stops working. Nobody cares about their electricity, or their water, until they suddenly don't have it. People, most people, are short sighted. Only ever tending to think about the here and now over later. And that's not going to change anytime soon. Sooner or later, something will happen. And people will fall back to what they've always done. They'll either push through, or they won't.
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 05:53:39 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:46:40 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.That's one of the most ignorant ways to look at things like this. With forewarning, you can mediate some of the damage and make personal preparations for yourself. Just sitting there like "PFFF LOL ITS GONNA HAPPEN HURRRR" and doing nothing is arrogant. If that's your attitude about any serious problems, you likely deserve all the terrible shit that happens. Passiveness is a disgusting character trait.If you didn't ever notice, I've been living with a setup designed for this. Generators. Solar cells. Knowledge on how to hunt and knowledge of my surrounding area. Storage tanks for water and gas.I already live in an environment that demands forethought. We have power outages for days, we have roads that can close up completely for days, and distance is a factor in anything. We have temperatures for over half of the year that can kill you in under 10 minutes.So yes, having a big collapse doesn't mean shit to me because I already practically live like there is a state of collapse. In which case my only problem these days is money because costs are rising and they aren't stopping. If they keep going up, people around here are going to be in serious shit.I'd actually prefer a crash honestly. No more money troubles. So yes. Your point is still moot. I'll be sitting up here in a lawn chair when, and if it ever happens, watching the fireworks go down.My point is not moot because everyone is not you. If everyone was in a state like yours, then it would be moot.
Quote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:46:40 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.That's one of the most ignorant ways to look at things like this. With forewarning, you can mediate some of the damage and make personal preparations for yourself. Just sitting there like "PFFF LOL ITS GONNA HAPPEN HURRRR" and doing nothing is arrogant. If that's your attitude about any serious problems, you likely deserve all the terrible shit that happens. Passiveness is a disgusting character trait.If you didn't ever notice, I've been living with a setup designed for this. Generators. Solar cells. Knowledge on how to hunt and knowledge of my surrounding area. Storage tanks for water and gas.I already live in an environment that demands forethought. We have power outages for days, we have roads that can close up completely for days, and distance is a factor in anything. We have temperatures for over half of the year that can kill you in under 10 minutes.So yes, having a big collapse doesn't mean shit to me because I already practically live like there is a state of collapse. In which case my only problem these days is money because costs are rising and they aren't stopping. If they keep going up, people around here are going to be in serious shit.I'd actually prefer a crash honestly. No more money troubles. So yes. Your point is still moot. I'll be sitting up here in a lawn chair when, and if it ever happens, watching the fireworks go down.
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.That's one of the most ignorant ways to look at things like this. With forewarning, you can mediate some of the damage and make personal preparations for yourself. Just sitting there like "PFFF LOL ITS GONNA HAPPEN HURRRR" and doing nothing is arrogant. If that's your attitude about any serious problems, you likely deserve all the terrible shit that happens. Passiveness is a disgusting character trait.
Quote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"
And?
Quote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 06:18:19 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 06:13:20 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:59:50 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 05:53:39 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 05:46:40 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 09, 2015, 03:45:17 PMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 09, 2015, 01:43:15 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 07, 2015, 10:49:49 PMAnd?What do you mean, "And?"Supposedly, a big crash is on the way. And? That's my point. If it's going to fall over than it's going to fall over. Nothing lasts forever and a system like ours that's built and functions on tightrope walking won't stay afloat forever.This report or article means absolutely nothing because people don't give a shit about anything until it rolls up in their face. There may or may not be a crash coming. Okay cool. Call me when it's over.That's one of the most ignorant ways to look at things like this. With forewarning, you can mediate some of the damage and make personal preparations for yourself. Just sitting there like "PFFF LOL ITS GONNA HAPPEN HURRRR" and doing nothing is arrogant. If that's your attitude about any serious problems, you likely deserve all the terrible shit that happens. Passiveness is a disgusting character trait.If you didn't ever notice, I've been living with a setup designed for this. Generators. Solar cells. Knowledge on how to hunt and knowledge of my surrounding area. Storage tanks for water and gas.I already live in an environment that demands forethought. We have power outages for days, we have roads that can close up completely for days, and distance is a factor in anything. We have temperatures for over half of the year that can kill you in under 10 minutes.So yes, having a big collapse doesn't mean shit to me because I already practically live like there is a state of collapse. In which case my only problem these days is money because costs are rising and they aren't stopping. If they keep going up, people around here are going to be in serious shit.I'd actually prefer a crash honestly. No more money troubles. So yes. Your point is still moot. I'll be sitting up here in a lawn chair when, and if it ever happens, watching the fireworks go down.My point is not moot because everyone is not you. If everyone was in a state like yours, then it would be moot.In which case we circle around back to my point. People don't give a fuck. And they never will unless they're slapped upside the head.Rainforests going down by hundreds of acres per second, destroying one of our best sources of natural antibiotics and treatments for diseases on the planet?Nobody gives a fuck or does anything to stop the assholes ripping it down and planting shitty palm oil crop farms that have a maximum of 10 years of life to them.Environment rapidly shifting and altering leading to more abnormal bouts of weather? Nobody gives a fuck.Corporations being total slimeball nickle and dimers down to the last scrap of dust and dead land? Nobody gives a fuck.So yes, your point is moot. Nobody ever cares about their toilet until it stops working. Nobody cares about their electricity, or their water, until they suddenly don't have it. People, most people, are short sighted. Only ever tending to think about the here and now over later. And that's not going to change anytime soon. Sooner or later, something will happen. And people will fall back to what they've always done. They'll either push through, or they won't.You're a completely passive idiot. Nothing is moot about trying to warn people as long as someone may listen. Just because maybe most won't care doesn't mean ALL won't care. Get out of my face with this depressing passive bullshit attitude, it's making me gag.Oh well then by all means, enlighten this community of roughly 100 people by posting this here.Go on then. Enlighten them with a plan of action.While you're at it, why not try posting this over on Bungie? How about on your facebook or twitter? Hell, why not bring it up to your family and friends?I'll just wait here. Make sure you come back with staggering positive results!
Well this thread just went 4 stages beyond full retard
Quote from: Azumarill on May 10, 2015, 12:00:03 AMWell this thread just went 4 stages beyond full retardWhat did I miss?
Quote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.
Quote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.
i mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.
Quote from: challengerX on May 07, 2015, 03:12:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.lolnoNot when you're constantly stuck behind retards who love driving 5-10 miles below the speed limit.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 12:20:49 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 07, 2015, 03:12:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.lolnoNot when you're constantly stuck behind retards who love driving 5-10 miles below the speed limit.That's why you pass them.If they're driving 5 to 10 below the speed limit then you're probably doing 20-30 below the speed limit so you don't hit them.DRIVE FASTER YOU FUCK.
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 10, 2015, 01:25:41 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 12:20:49 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 07, 2015, 03:12:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.lolnoNot when you're constantly stuck behind retards who love driving 5-10 miles below the speed limit.That's why you pass them.If they're driving 5 to 10 below the speed limit then you're probably doing 20-30 below the speed limit so you don't hit them.DRIVE FASTER YOU FUCK.It's not so easy to do that when most of the roads are one lane, or the other lanes are hogged by the exact same people going 5-10 miles below the limit.And no, I go as fast as they're going when I'm forced to be stuck behind one of them. I hang back a good distance though so I won't collide into them if they suddenly decelerate (slow drivers tend to be awful drivers from my experiences).
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 01:28:42 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 10, 2015, 01:25:41 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 12:20:49 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 07, 2015, 03:12:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.lolnoNot when you're constantly stuck behind retards who love driving 5-10 miles below the speed limit.That's why you pass them.If they're driving 5 to 10 below the speed limit then you're probably doing 20-30 below the speed limit so you don't hit them.DRIVE FASTER YOU FUCK.It's not so easy to do that when most of the roads are one lane, or the other lanes are hogged by the exact same people going 5-10 miles below the limit.And no, I go as fast as they're going when I'm forced to be stuck behind one of them. I hang back a good distance though so I won't collide into them if they suddenly decelerate (slow drivers tend to be awful drivers from my experiences).One lane. You know what to do comms. You need to go over them. If you can't go around them, you have to go over them.SpoilerReally though. I don't blame ya. Three types of drivers. Defensive drivers. Offensive drivers. And shitty drivers. Most are shitty. I drive slow but luckily I fit into the category of defensive. Speed limit on highways is 100 and I do 80-90. Pull over and drive on the side of the road to let other folks pass.I drive slow by nature because when you're doing 100 on gravel roads you can't stop for critters who decide to pop out on the road. I've been stuck behind slow drivers before though. Good lord. Going slower than me is an achievment. It's illegal, actually.
Quote from: Sandtrap on May 10, 2015, 01:37:23 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 01:28:42 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 10, 2015, 01:25:41 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 12:20:49 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 07, 2015, 03:12:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.lolnoNot when you're constantly stuck behind retards who love driving 5-10 miles below the speed limit.That's why you pass them.If they're driving 5 to 10 below the speed limit then you're probably doing 20-30 below the speed limit so you don't hit them.DRIVE FASTER YOU FUCK.It's not so easy to do that when most of the roads are one lane, or the other lanes are hogged by the exact same people going 5-10 miles below the limit.And no, I go as fast as they're going when I'm forced to be stuck behind one of them. I hang back a good distance though so I won't collide into them if they suddenly decelerate (slow drivers tend to be awful drivers from my experiences).One lane. You know what to do comms. You need to go over them. If you can't go around them, you have to go over them.SpoilerReally though. I don't blame ya. Three types of drivers. Defensive drivers. Offensive drivers. And shitty drivers. Most are shitty. I drive slow but luckily I fit into the category of defensive. Speed limit on highways is 100 and I do 80-90. Pull over and drive on the side of the road to let other folks pass.I drive slow by nature because when you're doing 100 on gravel roads you can't stop for critters who decide to pop out on the road. I've been stuck behind slow drivers before though. Good lord. Going slower than me is an achievment. It's illegal, actually.Yeah, I used to be an offensive driver, but then I had to deal with several offensive drivers (it was an unpleasant experience), so now I drive more defensively. Like, I usually drive around 10 miles above the limit, but if there's anyone who wants to go ahead of me, I try my best to pull over and let them through. Same thing on the freeways, but I go more 15-20 miles above the limit. I'm so hardcore.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 01:41:57 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 10, 2015, 01:37:23 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 01:28:42 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on May 10, 2015, 01:25:41 AMQuote from: Not Comms Officer on May 10, 2015, 12:20:49 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 07, 2015, 03:12:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on May 07, 2015, 07:08:47 AMQuote from: goots on May 07, 2015, 01:49:07 AMi mean if driver-less cars are perfected then that's already every one that drivers a vehicle for living out of a job.And everybody's richer for it. Labour can be reshuffled into more productive parts of the economy, but even if that is unfeasible (due to further or concurrent automation in other sectors) the cost of transportation will still plummet.Driving is fun you robot shill.lolnoNot when you're constantly stuck behind retards who love driving 5-10 miles below the speed limit.That's why you pass them.If they're driving 5 to 10 below the speed limit then you're probably doing 20-30 below the speed limit so you don't hit them.DRIVE FASTER YOU FUCK.It's not so easy to do that when most of the roads are one lane, or the other lanes are hogged by the exact same people going 5-10 miles below the limit.And no, I go as fast as they're going when I'm forced to be stuck behind one of them. I hang back a good distance though so I won't collide into them if they suddenly decelerate (slow drivers tend to be awful drivers from my experiences).One lane. You know what to do comms. You need to go over them. If you can't go around them, you have to go over them.SpoilerReally though. I don't blame ya. Three types of drivers. Defensive drivers. Offensive drivers. And shitty drivers. Most are shitty. I drive slow but luckily I fit into the category of defensive. Speed limit on highways is 100 and I do 80-90. Pull over and drive on the side of the road to let other folks pass.I drive slow by nature because when you're doing 100 on gravel roads you can't stop for critters who decide to pop out on the road. I've been stuck behind slow drivers before though. Good lord. Going slower than me is an achievment. It's illegal, actually.Yeah, I used to be an offensive driver, but then I had to deal with several offensive drivers (it was an unpleasant experience), so now I drive more defensively. Like, I usually drive around 10 miles above the limit, but if there's anyone who wants to go ahead of me, I try my best to pull over and let them through. Same thing on the freeways, but I go more 15-20 miles above the limit. I'm so hardcore.TFW you're a defensive driver while driving a 25 foot long 7 foot wide box. Can't afford to be an offensive driver when I could plow throw several cars like a tank without stopping. But at the same time, I love it. Niggas be giving you space on the roads cause they know you could run them over.
Why the fuck are we talking about your shitty driving in a conspiracy thread about economic collapse.
The fuck is this shit about tin foil hats, did I mention the Illuminati somewhere?
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 13, 2015, 11:14:38 AMThe fuck is this shit about tin foil hats, did I mention the Illuminati somewhere?