Yup. Econ 101: scarcity = value.
If there was an afterlife, that would change everything.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 12:28:58 PMIf there was an afterlife, that would change everything.How so? Or, I mean, from your point of view, what exactly would be so monumental about it?
Quote from: Meta Cognition on June 05, 2015, 12:20:27 PMYup. Econ 101: scarcity = value.So here's an interesting question. Why do religious people not pick up on that? They just pass it over. It's pretty easy to spot, I think.
Why do religious people not pick up on that?
Efilism
Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 01:25:12 PMEfilismThought that said elitism.
It's my belief that nonexistence is bliss, but whatever.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 01:25:12 PMIt's my belief that nonexistence is bliss, but whatever.how can nonexistence be blissful? nonexistence is...nothing
Quote from: Mad Max on June 05, 2015, 04:44:25 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 01:25:12 PMIt's my belief that nonexistence is bliss, but whatever.how can nonexistence be blissful? nonexistence is...nothingExactly.I don't mean bliss in the sense of happiness--I mean it in the sense of perfection.
Quote from: Sandtrap on June 05, 2015, 12:30:30 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 12:28:58 PMIf there was an afterlife, that would change everything.How so? Or, I mean, from your point of view, what exactly would be so monumental about it?Well, it would shatter my most fundamental belief: Efilism--the idea that life is fundamentally broken, and that, as a result, we have an ethical obligation to stop perpetuating it (anti-natalism, anti-procreation, et cetera).The existence of a heavenly afterlife would probably justify the imposition of life. Eternal bliss is pretty nice.It's my belief that nonexistence is bliss, but whatever.
Quote from: Sandtrap on June 05, 2015, 12:32:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on June 05, 2015, 12:20:27 PMYup. Econ 101: scarcity = value.So here's an interesting question. Why do religious people not pick up on that? They just pass it over. It's pretty easy to spot, I think.Does living until 90 rather than 30 devalue life? Does having access to unlimited clean water make your water worthless? It's a flawed premise.
I thought you said ELFism, which would make your fetish pretty ear-pointy.
Quote from: Queen Isabel I on June 05, 2015, 04:53:12 PMI thought you said ELFism, which would make your fetish pretty ear-pointy.My fetish?nvm i gotcha
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 05, 2015, 04:53:10 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on June 05, 2015, 12:32:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on June 05, 2015, 12:20:27 PMYup. Econ 101: scarcity = value.So here's an interesting question. Why do religious people not pick up on that? They just pass it over. It's pretty easy to spot, I think.Does living until 90 rather than 30 devalue life? Does having access to unlimited clean water make your water worthless? It's a flawed premise. economically, it follows. if you have unlimited clean water, where you aren't hauling a bucket 10 miles for your family to share, you don't think about it or how much you're using. so, yes, it is less valuable.
Quote from: Mad Max on June 05, 2015, 05:13:30 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 05, 2015, 04:53:10 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on June 05, 2015, 12:32:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on June 05, 2015, 12:20:27 PMYup. Econ 101: scarcity = value.So here's an interesting question. Why do religious people not pick up on that? They just pass it over. It's pretty easy to spot, I think.Does living until 90 rather than 30 devalue life? Does having access to unlimited clean water make your water worthless? It's a flawed premise. economically, it follows. if you have unlimited clean water, where you aren't hauling a bucket 10 miles for your family to share, you don't think about it or how much you're using. so, yes, it is less valuable.Having access to water doesn't make it any less necessary to survive. It's pretty silly to apply economics to the value of life.
i didn't say it was any less necessary, just that you don't consider its value since it's unlimited.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 05, 2015, 05:38:49 PMTerminating life support is immoral?
Not if the patient won't recover.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 05, 2015, 05:46:09 PMNot if the patient won't recover.Can't say I've ever heard of life support being removed from a non-terminal patient. Okay, what if the person themselves makes the choice to have no life support? Does it change with age, such as with elderly people who take out "Do not resuscitate" orders? Is suicide immoral?
and the same arguments people use to justify refusing transfusions is the same you're using now.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 05, 2015, 05:53:31 PMand the same arguments people use to justify refusing transfusions is the same you're using now.I'm not making any arguments; I'm just interested in what your opinion is.
Does the concept of an afterlife de-value life?
