Blatantly so. The video in question is twenty minutes long yet the debunking mentions almost nothing of it, and instead focuses on trying to discredit anyone that doesn't want Europe to be flooded with non-Europeans.
The VideoThere was a clear agenda behind the "With Gates Wide Open" video. While some real footage of Muslim refugees is used, several deceptive practices were employed in the editing of the film. For instance, many of the individual shots used in the film appear on screen for only a few brief moments, which makes it difficult to determine the contexts of those scenes.Take the clip shown at the 7:43 mark, for example. The audio comes from a man talking about how he is afraid to walk down the street due to the growing refugee population, while the visual shows someone being attacked. In the context of the video it is reasonable to assume that the man is being attacked by refugees, but that is not the case. Instead of showing refugees attacking an innocent civilian, the clip actually shows two Slovakian migrant workers who were attacked by leftist activist in Stockholm:
Similarly, a clip at the 7:51 mark that is played as the narrator talks about "crime skyrocketing" has nothing to do with refugees. The clip comes from a 2013 incident in which soccer fans rioted following Paris Saint-Germain's first French league title in 19 years.The video also uses previously debunked footage purportedly showing Muslims on a train in Germany in 2015. That piece of footage actually came from France and was first uploaded to YouTube in 2010, before the current Syrian refugee crisis began:YouTubeThe "With Gates Wide Open" video features glimpses of violence in cities across the world. While the video is edited to make it seem as though all of the incidents involve refugees in Europe, that is simply not the case.
Did you even watch the video? Pay attention to how the snopes article deliberately ignores almost all of it. It's 20 minute and snopes can only point out three, and yet it claims it's somehow debunked the entire thing.Hell did you even read the article? It's almost entirely about /pol/ and not the content of the video.
Quote from: Cadenza on January 11, 2016, 05:46:41 PMDid you even watch the video? Pay attention to how the snopes article deliberately ignores almost all of it. It's 20 minute and snopes can only point out three, and yet it claims it's somehow debunked the entire thing.Hell did you even read the article? It's almost entirely about /pol/ and not the content of the video.It's a Snopes article, not a scientific report. Debunking most of a 20-minute video of bullshit would take more time than the director probably put into it.
More importantly, the video should make the effort to prove that its claims are true, not the other way around.
That's awfully convenient that snopes doesn't have to be held to any standards,
and you've got no grounds to claim that the entirety of the video is bullshit.
The video doesn't make any claims though, it's literally a compilation of videos of events that happened.
Quote from: Cadenza on January 12, 2016, 02:39:50 AMThat's awfully convenient that snopes doesn't have to be held to any standards,I never said anything of the sort.
It's a Snopes article, not a scientific report.
Excuse me, didn't you just accuse an entire Snopes article of being bullshit?
Hey, I'm not the one claiming that refugees are violent. I don't have to prove anything, and I'm sure as hell not going to waste hours of my life debunking 20 minutes of Facebook clickbait. Considering it's from the Internet (8chan), anything it claims should be taken with a grain of salt.
QuoteThe video doesn't make any claims though, it's literally a compilation of videos of events that happened.The very title of the article snopes debunks is "This Is The Most Disturbing Muslim 'Refugee' Video You Will Ever See." The official title is "With Gates Wide Open." It literally makes the claim that Muslim refugees are committing all of these acts.
You're quite clearly implying that they only have to be held to the standard of a snopes article, which is bullshit.
What's your point? It's a very short article and the part that attempts to debunk the video is even shorter
That's the entire point of this discussion, snopes and you are claiming the whole thing's bullshit without doing anything to back that claim up.
Wrong, the video is also about Muslims already living in European countries, which you or snopes would only know about if you actually watched the video.
Viral videos should be generally taken with a grain of salt. Even if the basic claims may have be valid, there can a ton of ways to exaggerate the claims, and it's usually not worth the effort to debunk it. See below.
You're also judging the entirety of the website on one article by one author. It doesn't account for more fact-based articles like this or this or this. Snopes has often been accused of political bias, but these claims are shaky at best.
Because snopes didn't move heaven and earth to debunk a barrage of alleged migrant clips doesn't mean that there's bias to be found. Given that the video is viral and not, like, being picked up by the mainstream media likely means that snopes simply didn't care to put in a major effort. They could, but the early evidence (and your own lack of), plus their reluctance to actually put a true/false icon like their other articles, seems to indicate they're being reasonably fair with the little amount of effort put into it compared to their other articles.
Does Snopes.com have a political lean
