Do you think cloning humans is immoral?

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 05, 2014, 05:40:25 PM

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gats · October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM

Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as fuck. Plus what would be the point?

maverick · October 05, 2014, 05:44:20 PM

I don't know if I'd call it immoral but I also don't think it should be practiced often.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM

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SecondClass · October 05, 2014, 05:50:36 PM

Of course not.

challengerX · October 05, 2014, 05:52:22 PM

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maverick · October 05, 2014, 05:54:06 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM

Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

An endless supply of organs.

that's pretty fcked up.

Ásgeirr · October 05, 2014, 05:57:13 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM

Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

An endless supply of organs.

clum clum · October 05, 2014, 06:17:34 PM

I couldn't count the amount of uses a personal clone would have.

Nascent Email · October 05, 2014, 06:59:23 PM

Quote from: Ossku on October 05, 2014, 05:57:13 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

An endless supply of organs.
Spoiler

The plot of that film was the biocompany was too retarded to be able to selectively develop the brain. Organ farms would have the clones never wake up from a coma from birth till death. Quite frankly I see that as more immoral.

Rinev · October 05, 2014, 07:10:50 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM

Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

An endless supply of organs.

But you wouldn't have to clone an entire human for that would you? Couldn't you just grow the organ you needed?

big sponge · October 05, 2014, 07:25:45 PM

Quote from: Rinev Jeqkogo on October 05, 2014, 07:10:50 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

An endless supply of organs.

But you wouldn't have to clone an entire human for that would you? Couldn't you just grow the organ you needed?

Yes, which is exactly what's being worked on right now. Lab grown organs.

Korra · October 05, 2014, 08:46:42 PM

YouTube

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Mr. Psychologist · October 05, 2014, 09:06:41 PM

Not immoral, no <.<

I'd like to see it done, for psychological research purposes into development and nature/nurture >.>

Jocephalopod · October 05, 2014, 09:13:16 PM

no matter the moral justification....

it would be fucking cool

Death · October 05, 2014, 09:26:29 PM

If I could I'd make a lot of clones so I could replace my organs once they become all used up! It's the perfect donor. and if you could implant memories in someone you could become immortal, essentially.

Mattie G Indahouse · October 06, 2014, 05:50:29 AM

Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM

Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

If you need surgery at some point in your life you can get your origins cloned before hand so you have a supply for them. Instead of having to wait for one you can get one that day or whatever without having to be on some list. The other thing is that they can clone a supply of origins so they are ready when needed.

gats · October 06, 2014, 05:53:12 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on October 06, 2014, 05:50:29 AM

Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

If you need surgery at some point in your life you can get your origins cloned before hand so you have a supply for them. Instead of having to wait for one you can get one that day or whatever without having to be on some list. The other thing is that they can clone a supply of origins so they are ready when needed.

Cloning humans just to take their organs is pretty fucking disgusting. Organs can be grown without having to clone a whole human.

Isara · October 06, 2014, 07:36:46 AM

I wonder, if someone wanted to stay immortal then would a clone be considered as a legitimate replacement for the said person?

Super Irish · October 06, 2014, 08:36:24 AM

Depends on the use.

Wars make the death toll less to bear on people, but it's still a person being killed only instead it's Dave #569375 instead of Dave who's at home.

Science. They always say two heads are better than one...does it count if one's a cloned head of the other?

Exploration. Much like canaries in the 19th century or robots today, instead of risking "originals", just throw a clone in to check the safety of mines, melted down reactors, space missions, car crash tests, etc...

More Than Mortal · October 06, 2014, 08:40:32 AM

No, because I'm not some neo-Luddite bitch.

Magos Domina · October 06, 2014, 08:48:24 AM

Cloning as in making mindless bodies without any cognitive function to serve as organ donors? No.

Cloning as in making people just like you and I to harvest them for organs (i.e. The Island)? Fuck no.

Cloning people for shits n giggles? Haha the things I could do with 100 Kiyos....

Super Irish · October 06, 2014, 09:04:03 AM

Quote from: Kiyohime on October 06, 2014, 08:48:24 AM

Cloning as in making mindless bodies without any cognitive function to serve as organ donors? No.

Cloning as in making people just like you and I to harvest them for organs (i.e. The Island)? frack no.

Cloning people for shits n giggles? Haha the things I could do with 100 Kiyos....

Or the things 100 Kiyos could do with you. Remember, they all have your mind...

Risay117 · October 06, 2014, 09:10:30 AM

Honestly Cloning brings in the whole issue of human rights, and the fear that they are under the ownership of a certain group.

Honestly we need to first become more ethically advanced before cloning is done.

PIXLEsauce · October 06, 2014, 09:21:26 AM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 05, 2014, 05:44:56 PM

Quote from: Gatsby on October 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Yeah there's no need for it.
I don't mind cloning animals, but for humans it's just weird as frack. Plus what would be the point?

An endless supply of organs.

Yeah but now we can just 3D print the organs themselves anyways...

Flee · October 06, 2014, 09:29:08 AM

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cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 06, 2014, 09:30:18 AM

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More Than Mortal · October 06, 2014, 09:31:08 AM

I should clarify that mistreatment of clones is just as immoral as the mistreatment of "natural" humans.

Flee · October 06, 2014, 09:32:41 AM

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Risay117 · October 06, 2014, 09:42:09 AM

Quote from: Flee on October 06, 2014, 09:32:41 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on October 06, 2014, 09:31:08 AM
I should clarify that mistreatment of clones is just as immoral as the mistreatment of "natural" humans.
I agree, but I don't think everyone sees it that way.

Reminds me of the movie Cloud Atlas.