author=SoporificSlash link=topic=47385.msg936240#msg936240 date=1444241981] If you've ever met someone that went into the military being a complete jackass (I've met a few personally) it really changes them for the better.

Only two of my seven or so cousins that joined the army* weren't assholes afterwards.

Quote from: Thunder on October 07, 2015, 01:24:29 PM

Holy shit, what happened to Das?

unrelated to this

he bombed a group pm with loli porn

what the hell das

what the hell das

We blew it. We had all the signs and we didn't act, we're as much to blame as he is.

OT: nah, it aint necessary right now anyway.

In the right context, it can be an effective measure with which to improve public health and ensure the potential success of public defense. Just look at Switzerland. Fairly small, formally neutral (important! when you dont actively participate in armed conflict the citizenry will naturally be more willing to be conscripted), essentially a direct democracy in which the Swiss can create the right conditions for something like this to 1) work and 2) be accepted by the populace at large.

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Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 07, 2015, 01:19:41 PM

If you've ever met someone that went into the military being a complete jackass (I've met a few personally) it really changes them for the better.

Not to disregard your other points, but I can disagree with this. A lot of Marines I've seen have turned out arrogant as fuck because "Lol I'm a Marine now". It's fucking annoying, the brainwashed idiots.

That's because the Marines are literally meat shields and are basically taught exactly that. You ever seen Full Metal Jacket? Its very accurate

Haaaa no dude. That was Hollywood to the fucking extreme. Don't ever take that movie as a real representation of how basic training is. Maybe back then in Vietnam times it had some relevancy, but not anymore.

I had a friend of mine recently come back from the Marines. He said its still like that. A lot of "You're a pice of shit" put you down mind games which ends up giving them that "Lol I'm a marine" attitude.

The yelling is the part they nailed perfectly, yeah. Basically the mindset is, if you can't handle someone yelling in your ear, how the hell are you going to deal with gunfire going off around you?

But the hitting, abuse, all of that? No, if Drill Instructors so much as lay a finger on you, they'll get in so much trouble you wouldn't even know it. I know back then there were reports of abuses, but today is a no no.

The other part of it is that the military needs an army, not a bunch of individuals. They use drill sergeants to weaken the individual so that, later, they can build that person back up as a gear in a machine.

It can overall improve public quality of life yeah but that doesn't make it right necessarily. It at least should focus more on public service rather than military training though. (one can develop a career, improve communities, and create a strong national bond, the other is just paranoid international dick-waving)




Just don't do it like this. It's about serving the public, and women are just as capable at contributing to it.

In times when it is necessary for the defence of the realm, then sure.

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Quote from: Daoko on October 07, 2015, 06:34:11 PM

No, i really dont. Its taking a huge toll on me.

Oh yeah you actually live in a country where it happens. How close are you to that?

Well its that time of the year again, it was postponed last time due to depression.

Hmm don't you think it'd be best to just get it over and done with? I mean when you're done you're done right? (pending Russia doesn't pull some shit)

I wish, i just cant see myself going there. Im stressing enough about it as it is.

Besides the temptation to off myself when its time for weapons training is a thing. 'tbh fam'

It all depends on what happens in this years med checkup. I told the guy last time that i had sleeping problems and depression so he slapped me some anti deps and a time for a psych. Didnt go to the psych and the anti deps only helped with my sleep.

Not at all.