Do we need to worry about the regressive left?

Mordo · March 30, 2016, 09:30:03 PM

What with their stranglehold on college campuses and their apologetic attitude towards Islamism?

I honestly wouldn't mind them if it was some kooky sect that we could just ignore within a couple years, but fuck, the fact that the crazies have infiltrated education is where it worries me the most.

PSU · March 30, 2016, 09:32:54 PM

The thing is, thats the very vocal minority. I have many friends still in college, and at least around here (Penn, Nova, Penn State, Rutgers, Temple) Most of the student body hates these fucking protesting losers.

I mean colleges have always been liberal as fuck, but its just the stupid protesting that is getting them in the news.

And of course the people comparing writing "trump 2016" on walls and sidewalks to getting violently raped.

Verbatim · March 30, 2016, 10:24:17 PM

I like watching conservatives squirm.

More Than Mortal · March 30, 2016, 10:37:58 PM

Yeah, we should.

Everybody seems to be worrying about the rise of identitarian politics on both the Left and the Right a lot less than they ought to be.

SecondClass · March 30, 2016, 11:19:43 PM

"Do we need to worry about these correct people"

Ian · March 31, 2016, 12:42:11 AM

ITT: Buzzwords

Luciana · March 31, 2016, 01:44:41 AM

Quote from: PSU on March 30, 2016, 09:32:54 PM

The thing is, thats the very vocal minority. I have many friends still in college, and at least around here (Penn, Nova, Penn State, Rutgers, Temple) Most of the student body hates these fucking protesting losers.

I mean colleges have always been liberal as fuck, but its just the stupid protesting that is getting them in the news.

And of course the people comparing writing "trump 2016" on walls and sidewalks to getting violently raped.

I'm surprised to hear you say this.

But yeah, it is a vocal minority. Just because you hear some colleges changing these silly rules, doesn't mean every single one is suddenly Sanders 2016 libbie zones. I'd also like the OP to find me examples of libbies actually being apologetic towards Islamism as opposed to the religion of Islam. Though something tells me I won't be surprised hearing stories of people going "Sharia Law isn't THAT bad."

Making such sweeping statements is akin to saying the entire south is racist and backwards.

DAS B00T x2 · March 31, 2016, 05:35:57 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 30, 2016, 11:19:43 PM

"Do we need to worry about these correct people"

They're not libertarians though, they're progressive fascists.

Ajax · March 31, 2016, 08:54:06 AM

What is Islamism? Isn't it just Islam? We don't say Christianism

More Than Mortal · March 31, 2016, 08:55:12 AM

Quote from: Ajax on March 31, 2016, 08:54:06 AM

What is Islamism? Isn't it just Islam? We don't say Christianism

Islamism is political Islam.

challengerX · March 31, 2016, 09:01:20 AM

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Ajax · March 31, 2016, 09:06:11 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 31, 2016, 08:55:12 AM

Quote from: Ajax on March 31, 2016, 08:54:06 AM
What is Islamism? Isn't it just Islam? We don't say Christianism
Islamism is political Islam.

Sounds like a dumb phrase

Alternative Facts · March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM

Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.

DAS B00T x2 · March 31, 2016, 09:45:39 AM

Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM

Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.

more specifically, the Christian fundamentalists. Stormweenies aren't a threat to anyone in reality.

Mordo · March 31, 2016, 09:53:37 AM

Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM

Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.

The fundamentalist right isn't nearly as politically influential as the extremist left though, certainly in the UK anyway.

Alternative Facts · March 31, 2016, 11:42:43 AM

Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 09:53:37 AM

Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.
The fundamentalist right isn't nearly as politically influential as the extremist left though, certainly in the UK anyway.

Well aren't you quite lucky

Tsirist · March 31, 2016, 12:00:40 PM

Pretty much what PSU and Luci have said. It's not that remarkable to me that it's present in higher education. These days everyone wants a bachelor's degree. None of the more studious people, none of the professors, and none of the graduate students I've spoken with in the CS department have the more extreme leftist/SJW views, and that doesn't surprise me at all.

That's all anecdotal though so eh. It's just my perception that extremism on the left is in many ways just a fad or something like that, which is admittedly terrifying.

snee0rp · March 31, 2016, 12:00:45 PM

Probably not.

I don't really care, anyway. I'm a hermit. Society doesn't affect me.

Luciana · March 31, 2016, 12:11:54 PM

You guys should wiki the term so you know what it means.

Quote

Islamism, also known as Political Islam, is an Islamic revival movement often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt "to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life."[1] Islamism favors the reordering of government and society in accordance with the Shari'a.

Mordo · March 31, 2016, 06:58:32 PM

Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 11:42:43 AM

Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.
The fundamentalist right isn't nearly as politically influential as the extremist left though, certainly in the UK anyway.

Well aren't you quite lucky

Exactly how? Extremism is shitty regardless of where it aligns on the political spectrum. It's not like far left fascists are any less inherently evil than far right fascists.

Mad Max · March 31, 2016, 07:00:36 PM

Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 06:58:32 PM

Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.
The fundamentalist right isn't nearly as politically influential as the extremist left though, certainly in the UK anyway.

Well aren't you quite lucky
Exactly how? Extremism is shitty regardless of where it aligns on the political spectrum. It's not like far left fascists are any less inherently evil than far right fascists.

I think the point is that the extremists on the religious right in the US have a stranglehold on our country, unlike the retards on the regressive left.

Mordo · March 31, 2016, 07:03:15 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 31, 2016, 01:44:41 AM

I'd also like the OP to find me examples of libbies actually being apologetic towards Islamism as opposed to the religion of Islam.

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/islamism-and-the-left

Mordo · March 31, 2016, 07:04:43 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on March 31, 2016, 07:00:36 PM

Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 06:58:32 PM
Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.
The fundamentalist right isn't nearly as politically influential as the extremist left though, certainly in the UK anyway.

Well aren't you quite lucky
Exactly how? Extremism is shitty regardless of where it aligns on the political spectrum. It's not like far left fascists are any less inherently evil than far right fascists.
I think the point is that the extremists on the religious right in the US have a stranglehold on our country, unlike the retards on the regressive left.

I'm well aware, but I was addressing his implication that extremist leftism is somehow preferable to far right fundamentalism.

I'll clue you in, it's not.

Mad Max · March 31, 2016, 07:05:44 PM

Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 07:04:43 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on March 31, 2016, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 06:58:32 PM
Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Icy on March 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
Yes, and you need to worry about the extreme right.
The fundamentalist right isn't nearly as politically influential as the extremist left though, certainly in the UK anyway.

Well aren't you quite lucky
Exactly how? Extremism is shitty regardless of where it aligns on the political spectrum. It's not like far left fascists are any less inherently evil than far right fascists.
I think the point is that the extremists on the religious right in the US have a stranglehold on our country, unlike the retards on the regressive left.
I'm well aware, but I was addressing his implication that extremist leftism is somehow preferable to far right fundamentalism.

I'll clue you in, it's not.

You're right, I certainly don't disagree there.

Meh T.Z.E · March 31, 2016, 09:43:25 PM

"Left"

Well, if you consider anything having to do with social issues as a part of the left. Don't think of left and right as social things, think of them as economic things. If these people had any actual formidable opinion on economic issues, they wouldn't be as left as everyone thinks they are.

Word Wizard · March 31, 2016, 09:58:57 PM

I don't know if I would go so far as to say that they have a "strangle hold on college campuses". I mean - there are a lot of ignorant Bernie supports - but I haven't seen or heard of any sort of typical "regressive leftist" behavorial things.

Luciana · March 31, 2016, 10:26:47 PM

Quote from: Mordo on March 31, 2016, 07:03:15 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 31, 2016, 01:44:41 AM
I'd also like the OP to find me examples of libbies actually being apologetic towards Islamism as opposed to the religion of Islam.
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/islamism-and-the-left

I'll give that a read sometime soon.

I'm just letting you know I'm not ignoring you.

Casper · March 31, 2016, 10:33:30 PM

Well I'd say with the number of protesters/protests and people trying to force unequal equality into every facet of life, I'd say yes. Just because they may be a vocal minority doesn't mean they can't do damage.

Meh T.Z.E · March 31, 2016, 10:34:12 PM

Do we need to worry about the reactionary right?

What with their stranglehold on the Senate and their apologetic attitude towards Christianity?

I honestly wouldn't mind them if it was some kooky sect that we could just ignore within a couple years, but fuck, the fact that the crazies have infiltrated government is where it worries me the most.

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