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The Guardian - James Damore sues Google, alleging intolerance of white male conservatives

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Class-action lawsuit led by fired engineer includes 100 pages of internal documents and claims conservatives are ‘ostracized, belittled, and punished’

Google is facing renewed controversy over its alleged intolerance toward conservatives at the company, after a class action lawsuit filed by former engineer James Damore disclosed almost 100 pages of screen shots of internal communications in which employees discuss sensitive political issues.

The evidence appended to the lawsuit, which was filed on Monday, includes a message from Rachel Whetstone, who worked as a senior Google executive after a career in the UK Conservative party, bemoaning “prejudiced and antagonistic” political discourse at the company.

Damore, who was fired in 2017 after writing a controversial memo about gender and technology, alleges in the lawsuit that white, male conservative employees at Google are “ostracized, belittled, and punished”.

The lawsuit claims that numerous Google managers maintained “blacklists” of conservative employees with whom they refused to work; that Google has a list of conservatives who are banned from visiting the campus; and that Google’s firings of Damore and the other named plaintiff, David Gudeman, were discriminatory.

“We look forward to defending against Mr Damore’s lawsuit in court,” a Google spokesperson said in a statement.

The company’s workforce, like much of the rest of the tech industry, is overwhelmingly white, Asian, and male. In 2017, the US Department of Labor accused Google of “extreme pay discrimination” against women, and a group of women have filed a class-action lawsuit against the company alleging systemic wage discrimination.

But the Damore lawsuit purports to expose a cultural bias toward promoting diversity and “social justice” that, the suit claims, has created a “protected, distorted bubble of groupthink”. Efforts to increase the representation of women and underrepresented racial minorities, which companies like Google have undertaken in response to external criticism, are cast in the suit as illegal discrimination against the majority.

Screenshots of internal communications reveal numerous employees appearing to support the idea of being intolerant toward certain points of view, such as one post arguing that Google should respond to Damore’s memo by “disciplining or terminating those who have expressed support”. In another post, a manager stated his intention to “silence” certain “violently offensive” perspectives, writing: “There are certain ‘alternative views, including different political views’ which I do not want people to feel safe to share here … You can believe that women or minorities are unqualified all you like … but if you say it out loud, then you deserve what’s coming to you”.

Internal posts discussing the debate around diversity at Google, such as a meme of a penguin with the text “If you want to increase diversity at Google fire all the bigoted white men”, are filed as an appendix to the lawsuit under the heading “Anti-Caucasian postings”.

One manager is quoted as posting: “I keep a written blacklist of people whom I will never allow on or near my team, based on how they view and treat their coworkers. That blacklist got a little longer today.” Another screenshot reveals a manager proposing the creation of a list of “people who make diversity difficult”, and weighing the possibility that individuals could have “something resembling a trial” before being included.

In the 2014 email from Whetstone, who served as senior vice-president of communications and public policy at Google for several years before departing for Uber, she wrote: “It seems like we believe in free expression except when people disagree with the majority view … I have lost count of the times at Google, for example, people tell me privately that they cannot admit their voting choice if they are Republican because they fear how other Googlers react.”

The complaint argues that Google’s tolerance for “alternative lifestyles” – the company has internal mailing lists for people interested in “furries, polygamy, transgenderism, and plurality” – does not extend to conservatism. One employee who emailed a list seeking parenting advice related to imparting a child with “traditional gender roles and patriarchy from a very young age” was allegedly chastised by human resources.

The suit also alleges that Google maintains a “secret” blacklist of conservative authors who are banned from being on campus. Curtis Yarvin, a “neoreactionary” who blogs under the name Mencius Moldbug, was allegedly removed from the campus by security after being invited to lunch. The plaintiffs subsequently learned, it is claimed in the suit, that Alex Jones, the InfoWars conspiracy theorist, and Theodore Beale, an “alt-right” blogger known as VoxDay, were also banned from the campus.

The suit will likely reignite the culture wars that have swirled around the tech industry since the election of Donald Trump. Many liberals within the tech industry have pressured their employers to take a stand against Trump policies, such as the Muslim travel ban, and companies have struggled to decide the extent to which they will allow the resurgent movement of white nationalists to use their platforms to organize.

Damore’s firing in August last year was heavily covered by the rightwing media, which portrayed the saga as evidence of Silicon Valley’s liberal bias, and the engineer was transformed into a political martyr by prominent members of the “alt-right”.

In making its case against Google, the suit reveals some of the internal backlash Damore received after his memo went viral, including a mass email in which a Google director called the memo “repulsive and intellectually dishonest” and an email to Damore from a fellow engineer stating: “I will keep hounding you until one of us is fired.”

Gudeman, the second named plaintiff, was fired following a post-election controversy in another online forum at Google. A Google employee posted that he was concerned for his safety under a Trump administration because he had already been “targeted by the FBI (including at work) for being a Muslim”. According to the suit, Gudeman responded skeptically to the comment, raising questions about the FBI’s motives for investigating the employee, and was reported to HR.

Gudeman was fired shortly thereafter, the suit claims, after Google HR told him that he had “accused [the Muslim employee] of terrorism”.

The public reaction to this is of course very reasonable, nuanced and well thought out.


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wont someone think of the white men?


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So why exactly has the political camp that decried diversity for the sake of diversity suddenly taken up the cause of "intellectual diversity" for the sake of diversity?

The same people who used to be critical of the value of injecting diversity into spaces now seem to have latched onto the notion that their ideology now must be included simply for the fact that their ideology exists. I don't get it. It's even *easier* to be critical of the value of ideological diversity. A flat-earther doesn't add anything of value to an astrophysics conference. An anti-vaxxer doesn't add anything of value to a medical conference.

It's either stupidity or intellectual dishonest with one's self.


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So why exactly has the political camp that decried diversity for the sake of diversity suddenly taken up the cause of "intellectual diversity" for the sake of diversity?

The same people who used to be critical of the value of injecting diversity into spaces now seem to have latched onto the notion that their ideology now must be included simply for the fact that their ideology exists. I don't get it. It's even *easier* to be critical of the value of ideological diversity. A flat-earther doesn't add anything of value to an astrophysics conference. An anti-vaxxer doesn't add anything of value to a medical conference.

It's either stupidity or intellectual dishonest with one's self.
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Should be an interesting case. Unfortunately there is just too much extremism on both sides to have any type of reasonable discussion about this anywhere.

Leftists refuse to believe a white man can be at the receiving end of racism and that they will always have more privilege simply because they are white. While the right refuses to acknowledge that many white people are racist towards other races, and can't seem to decide between being Nazis or claiming "leftists are the REAL racists".

But this is why trump got elected. This unchecked social climate of white men being "evil", "uncool", "bigoted" in media and social media. Is it as bad as the discrimination other races have faced? No, but it's not a competition, and nobody should be discriminated against in any way.


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This is the reason why Trump got elected. Has nothing to do with race.


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Most people still do subscribe to that belief. However it's difficult to do when the employer of all things is the one bringing it in.

Whatever happened to "don't bring your politics to work"?


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You know that's not true.

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I hope he wins not even for political reasons but because fuck Google.
Why fuck Google?


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Most people can get on with their day to day lives without getting involved with politics. Hell, even with the absolute awful state of game journalism, I can enjoy video games without politics getting involved. Things that aren't normally political only get political if you want them too, and unlike SOME individuals, most people don't want politics consuming their life.

but it is


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I hope he wins not even for political reasons but because fuck Google.
Why fuck Google?
They've become political.


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Most people can get on with their day to day lives without getting involved with politics. Hell, even with the absolute awful state of game journalism, I can enjoy video games without politics getting involved. Things that aren't normally political only get political if you want them too, and unlike SOME individuals, most people don't want politics consuming their life.

but it is
everything is political

also lol did you really just Gamergate™
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Everything is political to you*

Also no, You don’t have to be involved in Gamergate to think game journalism is shit.

everything is political

also lol did you really just Gamergate™


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Everything is political to you*

Also no, You don’t have to be involved in Gamergate to think game journalism is shit.

everything is political

also lol did you really just Gamergate™
stick your head in the sand all you want. politics inform every single aspect of life


 
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Also no, You don’t have to be involved in Gamergate to think game journalism is shit.

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Everything is political to you*

Also no, You don’t have to be involved in Gamergate to think game journalism is shit.

everything is political

also lol did you really just Gamergate™
stick your head in the sand all you want. politics inform every single aspect of life
How so?


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I wake up, shower and and get ready for the day, have breakfast, drive to work, do work, occasionally have fun with coworkers, come home, cook dinner, feed the cats, go to bed.

Wow so political.

stick your head in the sand all you want. politics inform every single aspect of life


 
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stick your head in the sand all you want. politics inform every single aspect of life
I wake up, shower and and get ready for the day, have breakfast, drive to work, do work, occasionally have fun with coworkers, come home, cook dinner, feed the cats, go to bed.

Wow so political.
what do you think gives you the right to do all of these things


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I guess you can say Politics, but in my day to day life that still doesn't affect me. I can do all these things without have to be involved in politics.

what do you think gives you the right to do all of these things


 
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I guess you can say Politics, but in my day to day life that still doesn't affect me. I can do all these things without have to be involved in politics.
i would so ban owning pets


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Yes politics technically involves every aspect of life where a government exists but I’m not sure if you guys are intentionally missing Ian’s point that particular political beliefs and agendas don’t belong in the workplace.


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