Coronavirus panic room thread

t. seething mutts

The fact that Americans need to protest a pandemic so they can go back to being wagecucks is a testament to their exploitative parasitic system, not to "apocalyptic shills" or whatever other coping mechanism that reaffirms your confirmation biases.

NNNNOOOOOOOOO DON'T GO OUTSIDE!! YOU'LL KILL MY 97 YEAR OLD GRANDPA WITH ASS CANCER WHO HASN'T LEFT HIS HOUSE IN TWENTY YEARS!!!

Actually yes.

Spoiler

You'll happen to kill my 97 old grandpa that happen to be one of few people being able to program on half century old programming language called COBOL which happen to run in a banking system I'm using.

But really, I don't understand this logic that if this virus is not as deadly as something else we should not quarantine. It's like letting a serial killer go free by saying “eh, car accidents kill more people than him every year”

Sweden has some social distancing, but not full on lock down; when compared to their neighbor Norway that does have a full scale lock down in place, the death rate has no significant increase. No one is saying these lock down measures that were put in place were the wrong thing to do when the pandemic started, but the numbers we have now do not match the numbers we have when this started. We have never forced people into an absolutely horrible situation over a fatality rate of less than 1% before.

This isn't just staying at home and playing video games all day unless your NEET trash. People have no money for food or shelter; child molestation, domestic abuse, depression, anxiety and suicide is all on the rise and for what? A virus that doesn't kill you and doesn't leave any long term health effects in over 50-80% of individuals just like the cold & influenza? It's not just American doctors saying this, European health officials are saying the same thing. This is a pandemic, but it's not going to kill you and it's not going to make you infertile, or attack your brain, and turn you black like some would have you believe. We have never treated a health situation like this since the birth of civilization.

When the trained doctors in that video talk about interacting with the environment and being exposed to bacteria & flora, they're not cooking that shit up out of their ass. That's a biological fact, elephants, pandas, hippos, all of them literally eat their mothers shit to obtain the bacteria needed to produce a stronger digestive system. Bunkering up in your room for four months and sanitizing everything is going to do you more harm than good.

But really, I don't understand this logic that if this virus is not as deadly as something else we should not quarantine. It's like letting a serial killer go free by saying “eh, car accidents kill more people than him every year”

Sweden has some social distancing, but not full on lock down; when compared to their neighbor Norway that does have a full scale lock down in place, the death rate has no significant increase. No one is saying these lock down measures that were put in place were the wrong thing to do when the pandemic started, but the numbers we have now do not match the numbers we have when this started. We have never forced people into an absolutely horrible situation over a fatality rate of less than 1% before.

This isn't just staying at home and playing video games all day unless your NEET trash. People have no money for food or shelter; child molestation, domestic abuse, depression, anxiety and suicide is all on the rise and for what? A virus that doesn't kill you and doesn't leave any long term health effects in over 50-80% of individuals just like the cold & influenza? It's not just American doctors saying this, European health officials are saying the same thing. This is a pandemic, but it's not going to kill you and it's not going to make you infertile, or attack your brain, and turn you black like some would have you believe. We have never treated a health situation like this since the birth of civilization.

When the trained doctors in that video talk about interacting with the environment and being exposed to bacteria & flora, they're not cooking that shit up out of their ass. That's a biological fact, elephants, pandas, hippos, all of them literally eat their mothers shit to obtain the bacteria needed to produce a stronger digestive system. Bunkering up in your room for four months and sanitizing everything is going to do you more harm than good.

But really, I don't understand this logic that if this virus is not as deadly as something else we should not quarantine. It's like letting a serial killer go free by saying “eh, car accidents kill more people than him every year”

Its not about living in a bubble - its about making sure hospitals do not suddenly have the entire country show up at their doorstep.

Herd immunity stage will come, but it has to be controlled and be gradual. Lockdowns help with that. Also consider this - can you operate with flu? When your joints ache and you're burning up with +38 or more? Would you go to your office or sit at a till? For now, the flu still holds higher K/D than Corona, but how contagious is it compared to Covid? Is a vaccine readily available? How does it affect a re-infected person?

As for jobs and such, I would wager that this pandemic highlights the uselessness of capitalism. People who have jobs just to literally live. Not to afford luxuries, but to have a roof over their head, food and water. Its time the world opens its eyes to the need of self-sustainability of the individual.

The fatality rate is actually 3-4%, whereas by comparison yearly influenza is at 0.1%, according to the WHO. If you're going to be a belligerent ignoramus then at least get some of the facts right.

The fact of the matter is we do not know the actual death rate (the figures we have are really just verified confirmations, a lot of government bodies are postulating that the figure is much, much higher), the long term health impact this will have, or really much of anything of this disease apart from the fact that it's highly contagious, and the most vulnerable people in our society are at the highest risk of critical illness and/or death. Yeah, they're people too believe it or not.

So basing your entire conclusion of off "well it's basically just the flu, so we shouldn't be taking this seriously" and treating people as statistical numbers that hold no significance is quite frankly revolting, and borderline sociopathic. 200,000 people are no longer on the planet in the span of a couple months. There is no treatment, vaccine or cure for it, and your biggest concern right now is being too alarmist. Laughable.

tbh I hope this shit goes on for longer than it needs to. The lesser traffic has been fucking nice for those of us who still work and need to travel a lot for said work. 
Pluss I want another round of stimulus to double dip.

When do we reach that curve? Are we sure we haven't already reached it? Hospitals are furloughing their own doctors and nurses because they're not receiving any patients. The medical ship sent to NY to help lighten the load is now leaving, tents set up outside hospitals are being dismantled because they simple aren't being used. Those 30,000 ventilators that were asked for, not even a fraction was used. If those theoretical models we were relying on were accurate, that'd be one thing, but it simply isn't happening.

What is going to happen is people will go back to society with weaker immune systems and they'll get very ill and hospitalized over disease that isn't even Covid. What are we supposed to do then? Go into another lock down? Government officials are doing the right thing by slowly phasing reopening with the data that we have. But the idea that we have to stay shut down for over a year to ease the burden of hospitals while nurses are posting Tik Tok videos is just unrealistic.

I agree that an individual shouldn't work just to survive but it's objectively disingenuous for people to also claim that an individual who is furloughed/lost their job and has no source of income is wanting to reopen just because they're a corporate bootlicker, especially when both American and European health officials claim the lock down measures are counterproductive.

Its not about living in a bubble - its about making sure hospitals do not suddenly have the entire country show up at their doorstep.

Herd immunity stage will come, but it has to be controlled and be gradual. Lockdowns help with that. Also consider this - can you operate with flu? When your joints ache and you're burning up with +38 or more? Would you go to your office or sit at a till? For now, the flu still holds higher K/D than Corona, but how contagious is it compared to Covid? Is a vaccine readily available? How does it affect a re-infected person?

As for jobs and such, I would wager that this pandemic highlights the uselessness of capitalism. People who have jobs just to literally live. Not to afford luxuries, but to have a roof over their head, food and water. Its time the world opens its eyes to the need of self-sustainability of the individual.

When do we reach that curve? Are we sure we haven't already reached it? Hospitals are furloughing their own doctors and nurses because they're not receiving any patients. The medical ship sent to NY to help lighten the load is now leaving, tents set up outside hospitals are being dismantled because they simple aren't being used. Those 30,000 ventilators that were asked for, not even a fraction was used. If those theoretical models we were relying on were accurate, that'd be one thing, but it simply isn't happening.

What is going to happen is people will go back to society with weaker immune systems and they'll get very ill and hospitalized over disease that isn't even Covid. What are we supposed to do then? Go into another lock down? Government officials are doing the right thing by slowly phasing reopening with the data that we have. But the idea that we have to stay shut down for over a year to ease the burden of hospitals while nurses are posting Tik Tok videos is just unrealistic.

I agree that an individual shouldn't work just to survive but it's objectively disingenuous for people to also claim that an individual who is furloughed/lost their job and has no source of income is wanting to reopen just because they're a corporate bootlicker, especially when both American and European health officials claim the lock down measures are counterproductive.

Its not about living in a bubble - its about making sure hospitals do not suddenly have the entire country show up at their doorstep.

Herd immunity stage will come, but it has to be controlled and be gradual. Lockdowns help with that. Also consider this - can you operate with flu? When your joints ache and you're burning up with +38 or more? Would you go to your office or sit at a till? For now, the flu still holds higher K/D than Corona, but how contagious is it compared to Covid? Is a vaccine readily available? How does it affect a re-infected person?

As for jobs and such, I would wager that this pandemic highlights the uselessness of capitalism. People who have jobs just to literally live. Not to afford luxuries, but to have a roof over their head, food and water. Its time the world opens its eyes to the need of self-sustainability of the individual.

You do realize that the fact that hospitals not being overloaded right now and tents being dismantled is most likely thanks to the lockdown measures?

So we lock down and increase hospital capacity to "flatten the curve" but now that we have an abundance of hospital capacity and the virus is no longer as deadly as previously assumed the answer is to keep everybody locked down indefinitely and keep hospital capacity as is? Surely you see the issue with this? Hospitalization will spike when we reopen but that's to be expected because everyone sat at home and killed their immune system.

Like I said, no one was saying the lock down at the start was bad, what's being said is that as time goes on, such drastic measures are being more and more unnecessary.

You do realize that the fact that hospitals not being overloaded right now and tents being dismantled is most likely thanks to the lockdown measures?

>Americans will literally fight tooth and nail  so they can remain being wagies for their corporate overlords during a global health crisis.

It's all so fucking tiresome.

So we lock down and increase hospital capacity to "flatten the curve" but now that we have an abundance of hospital capacity and the virus is no longer as deadly as previously assumed the answer is to keep everybody locked down indefinitely and keep hospital capacity as is? Surely you see the issue with this? Hospitalization will spike when we reopen but that's to be expected because everyone sat at home and killed their immune system.

Like I said, no one was saying the lock down at the start was bad, what's being said is that as time goes on, such drastic measures are being more and more unnecessary.

You do realize that the fact that hospitals not being overloaded right now and tents being dismantled is most likely thanks to the lockdown measures?

Countries should wait until there is a steady downward trend of new infections before going back to 'normal'.

But what's "normal" though? Things aren't going to go back to what they were like January or February for a very long time, but we have to face the problems that have arose from this now. Here in FL you're waiting 6-8 weeks just to see if your unemployment application was even approved or not, let alone getting benefits. Cases are going to still occur because a zero percent situation is realistically impossible, but isn't that the point of increasing the hospital capacity?

Countries should wait until there is a steady downward trend of new infections before going back to 'normal'.

They're gonna let us all out sooner or later. There's no way they're going to keep all of us inside with our A/C full blast once the summer months get closer.

The first holiday we're able to celebrate being July 4 would be poetic and shit, we'd better be able to. I haven't been saving money for fireworks for nothing.

You know it's possible to take issue with unemployment and the government's failure to handle it without intentionally downplaying the virus and begging for the lockdown to be lifted.

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Are boris is back

Bak to kick cofeeds ahrse

Are boris is back

Bak to kick cofeeds ahrse

all the clappin worked hes comin out

god i love are country

Are boris is back

Bak to kick cofeeds ahrse

all the clappin worked hes comin out

god i love are country

Magic m8 magic

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how are you doing, bucko

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how are you doing, bucko

man just chilling trying to survive this and wondering why I’m paying for “remote learning” when I could learn all this stuff for free on the internet. What’s good with you did you ever finish that book?

not quite, but the current situation has certainly given me ample opportunity to get more stuff written than ever

i used to only ever write when i feel like i had something perfect, but i've gotten myself into the habit of writing every day, even when i don't want to, because that's the only way i'm gonna get this thing done in a timely fashion

all things considered, i've been okay, and so has my family—college work sucks a little bit more, and everyone around me is in a constant state of worry, which hasn't been doing my psyche any favors

but besides that, i'm living it out

i was so close to becoming disney CEO as well

YouTube

Is it like that in other states or is it just California being the shittiest state as usual?

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meh
less people are gonna die to this than the flu anyway

This did not age well.

Actually
US deaths are at 53k from corona
the 2017-2018 flu season reported 79k dead from influenza as per CDC records.

so I'm still riding this bet.

3 days later and we're up 4k for confirmed covid deaths. Prediction isn't looking good friendo. And now that GOP Governors are starting to end lockdowns before the infection numbers decrease, there's probably going to be another surge.

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