Calm down Jesus Christ you’re embarrassing yourself over a simple discussion. I never said anything about defying the law to go to work, you’re pulling that out of nowhere. Also throwing money at an issue won’t necessarily make it go away. Is this affecting the entire country? Yes. Is the federal government doing something about it? Yes. Should the state/local government do something to help in their respective states? Yes. This is not a difficult concept. I don’t know what it’s like over there but here the state/local governments can do more for their citizens than just make petty ordinances. The way your arguing about this you’re making it seem like there’s nothing in between a huge national government and a neighborhood advisory board meeting. At least, that’s how your coming across. Quote from: Mordo on March 24, 2020, 02:00:04 PMI swear, you yanks would have literal walkers roaming the streets and you'd still be like "I am a PROUD Trump supporter and I will gladly DIE on the job at Foot Locker if it means the federal government stays out of our lives!"Federal government = more resources and better equipment to deal with national crises. State government pertains to LOCALISED issues, which is clearly not what you are dealing with here. I'm not even American and even I can grasp that basic concept. Why is this so difficult for you.
I swear, you yanks would have literal walkers roaming the streets and you'd still be like "I am a PROUD Trump supporter and I will gladly DIE on the job at Foot Locker if it means the federal government stays out of our lives!"Federal government = more resources and better equipment to deal with national crises. State government pertains to LOCALISED issues, which is clearly not what you are dealing with here. I'm not even American and even I can grasp that basic concept. Why is this so difficult for you.
My bro, you are the one arguing why federal government should not be involved in a nationwide health crisis. You've now jumped from "what good would federal meddling do" to conceding that the federal government is doing something about it. I'm arguing that they're not doing enough, and now you're trying to semantics your way out of this hole you've dug yourself into. Gaslighting might work on your Liberty Hangout forums but it doesn't work on people with a brain.
In other news, I'm assuming that harpy Pelosi finally backed down since the Senate agreed on a stimulus bill. Every eligible citizen will get a $1200 at some point in the future. Personally this is great news for me since I haven't been able to add any money to my savings account in a while, and I have several bills looming over my head right now.
we're hiring for work n st augustine fam come spread corona to boomers in condos with me
Yes, I said Federal meddling wouldn't be productive, but I'm saying that in conjunction to what's already been done. I'm not blind to what's already been taken. I'm sorry but I don't see how the federal government can automatically do a more efficient job just because they're the federal government, especially with our current president. This country is so mismanaged and it doesn't exactly have a great tract record at being efficient, whereas I've seen states handle things in their jurisdiction with great skill. Granted this is a very new crisis that we haven't really experienced before but I still don't see how the states shouldn't have any authority on the matter. Here's a question: Isn't Italy in the EU? What steps are they taking and if they are, why is Italy still piling up bodies? Quote from: Mordo on March 25, 2020, 12:40:03 AMMy bro, you are the one arguing why federal government should not be involved in a nationwide health crisis. You've now jumped from "what good would federal meddling do" to conceding that the federal government is doing something about it. I'm arguing that they're not doing enough, and now you're trying to semantics your way out of this hole you've dug yourself into. Gaslighting might work on your Liberty Hangout forums but it doesn't work on people with a brain.
I'm not sure what your question is alluding to or implying. Nobody knows the reason why Italy is severely affected, but what is certain is that the nationwide lockdown is starting to yield results, albeit slowly. The EU doesn't have much clout in the operations of individual member states because the EU and Italy aren't a singular country. The US is. Let me ask you a question, if Italy had left their individual provinces and city councils to their own devices to deal with this thing, would they be seeing better results, or do you think the virus would ripping through communities like wildfire?
Nobody knows the reason why Italy is severely affected
Also Venice being both tourist attraction and having high humidity is just perfect, perfect place for this virus to operate.
Has there been some evidence that the humidity somehow has the opposite effect for this virus and makes it spread easier?
Quote from: Mordo on March 25, 2020, 07:01:33 PMNobody knows the reason why Italy is severely affectedThere are two reasons why Italy is severely affected. 1) Italy has high standard of living, and a lot of people in their 60+ not only are alive, but can (and prefer to, because mentality to live life to fullest, to enjoy it) walk around freely, which worked in favour of infecting more people
It's peculiar how Japan isn't seeing more cases than it's currently experiencing right now given their life expectancy and standard of living.Then again, they have the added benefit of living on an island.
Various news sites cite that the virus doesn't do particularly well in warmer climates.
Quote from: MarKhan on March 25, 2020, 07:59:34 PMAlso Venice being both tourist attraction and having high humidity is just perfect, perfect place for this virus to operate.Other viruses like influence are harder to spread in humid weather because the humidity condenses more water on the respiratory droplets from coughing or sneezing which causes them to fall to the ground faster and not travel as far. I've heard that the WHO was hoping that SARS-CoV-2 would also share this property which could make it more seasonal like the influenza virus, but they needed to study it further to determine whether or not that is the case.Has there been some evidence that the humidity somehow has the opposite effect for this virus and makes it spread easier?
one of the stores near me installed plexi panels to cash registers
John Kerry also called Rep. Massie a "Masshole".
Quote from: Ian on March 27, 2020, 12:56:45 PMJohn Kerry also called Rep. Massie a "Masshole".now that's epic
I heard from a couple of people that this is actually man-made in the US. Is there any evidence (that you cannot deny without some mental gymnastics) that it came from China?