Man you conservatives are so depressing.

"SLAVES WERE TREATED WELL! LINCOLN CONSIDERED SENDING SLAVES BACK TO AFRICA EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T SO HE'S HORRIBLE! MUH REVISIONIST HISTORY AND CHERRY PICKING! SLAVES WERE RARELY WHIPPED! THEY WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE FAMILIES, ALTHOUGH I FORGOT ABOUT THE PART WHERE THE WHITE MASTERS WOULD SELL THE CHILDREN OFF AS SLAVES AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE MOTHER IF SHE SAID ANYTHING! CIVIL WAR WAS ABOUT STATES RIGHTS, ALTHOUGH I CONVENIENTLY CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH STATES RIGHTS IT WAS ABOUT, ALTHOUGH IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE A LARGE NUMBER OF YANKEES WHO WERE GROWING DISGUSTED BY SLAVERY IN THE SOUTH! SLAVERY SHOULD HAVE DIED OFF NATURALLY EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN FORVER UNTIL PEOPLE MADE THE TRANSITION FROM HUMAN LABOR TO BUYING MACHINES!

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN HURR DURR GOD BLESS!"

Do us all a favor and go hump your cousins, it's all you're good for.

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 20, 2014, 06:21:14 AM

Quote from: challengerX on October 20, 2014, 06:06:14 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 20, 2014, 06:00:17 AM

Hmmmmm

Just a friendly reminder, nothing official but try to keep this clean >.>
It's an interesting discussion that for once hasn't completely degenerated into flaming, I'd like to see it remain that way >.>

There's no keeping it clean with ignorant savages apologizing and trying to justify slavery.

My ancestors got rid of widespread slavery 2,500 years ago, not to mention the slaves were more like servants who were treated humanely and were not picked for their skin color, and freeing slaves was regarded as one of the best things you could do. America got rid of it some centuries ago and still has people who think slavery was good.

I'm just not getting into it with Cam who's basically a broken record, Kinder who calls anybody who disagrees with him a Communist and "libtard", and any other inbred southern trash who wants to "discuss" this.

You can tell people the truth all you like, it's up to them to accept it. And when they don't want to and don't have an open mind, it's a colossal waste of time. I have far better things to do.

Hmm, I don't particularly wish to be drawn into this but I will say that I agree with you. Slavery is utterly wrong, and I would laugh in the face of anyone who tries to justify it.

I can't say I know enough about the causes of the US civil war to say who was explicitly in the right but the thing that stands out to me the most is that the North was freeing slaves and the south wanted to keep them. From an outside moral point of view, I'd side with the Union over it. If people want to nitpick and shoot over the things they deem to be the true cause of the war then that's the prerogative but yes,  those who were freeing slaves and those who were keeping them... it's really not hard to see who is in the wrong.

http://livescience.com/13673-civil-war-anniversary-myths.html

Here's a good link with the facts.

Yeah, taxation is a form of slavery.

Quote from: Kinder on October 20, 2014, 08:33:01 AM

Quote from: challengerX on October 20, 2014, 06:06:14 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 20, 2014, 06:00:17 AM

Hmmmmm

Just a friendly reminder, nothing official but try to keep this clean >.>
It's an interesting discussion that for once hasn't completely degenerated into flaming, I'd like to see it remain that way >.>

There's no keeping it clean with ignorant savages apologizing and trying to justify slavery.

My ancestors got rid of widespread slavery 2,500 years ago, not to mention the slaves were more like servants who were treated humanely and were not picked for their skin color, and freeing slaves was regarded as one of the best things you could do. America got rid of it some centuries ago and still has people who think slavery was good.

I'm just not getting into it with Cam who's basically a broken record, Kinder who calls anybody who disagrees with him a Communist and "libtard", and any other inbred southern trash who wants to "discuss" this.

You can tell people the truth all you like, it's up to them to accept it. And when they don't want to and don't have an open mind, it's a colossal waste of time. I have far better things to do.

Ah, typical Challenger not reading the discussion and making wide-spread generalizations

Justifying slavery? Nobody is justifying the degrading act of owning another human being. What's being discussed is the South not a representation of hate, but a sense of proud and identity. Nobody goes ape shit when Russians or Germans display nationalism, despite Germany causing the holocaust and Russia killing tens of millions of people

Your ancestors? Let me guess, Persia? Yeah, slavery was only outlawed in Persia/Iran by Rezā Shāh in 1928. Slavery existed under the  Achaemenids, Parthians, and Sassanids. In 1828, the slave trade against Circassians and Georgians was abolished and  the late 19th century the British Empire put an end to the slave trade in Iran.However, slavery was still common in Iran under the Qajar dynasty

Now let me tell YOU something about MY ancestors. My family is almost half Irish. Know how the Irish were treated? Just as bad, and at times, FAR worse than blacks. The British killed thousands and millions of my people, along with selling hundreds of thousands of us into slavery, where they were brought into America.

Just as stated above, slaves were NOT just black and was nothing based on skin color. If it was based on color, then there would have been no white slaves. Funny enough that America abolished slavery before Iran did

And I'll throw this right back at you: You can tell people the truth all you like, it's up to them to accept it. And when they don't want to and don't have an open mind, it's a colossal waste of time.

I read everything, and laughed my ass off doing so.

You're a slavery apologist. You change history to suit your beliefs. And yes I do dislike when there are overly nationalistic Germans and Russians. But the main point is the "South" is not a nation. You're part of the United States of America. If you don't like it, leave. But don't fly the flag of dumbasses who seceded to keep their slaves then got their shit pushed in. It's just retarded.

I'm well aware it wasn't formally outlawed until 1928 in Iran. But I said "widespread slavery". That hadn't been in Iran for hundreds of years.

When did I ever say what happened to the Irish isn't bad? Why are you even bringing that up? I brought my ancestry because it's relevant to the fact that widespread slavery is ancient history in Iran, and even then they were treated with FAR more respect THOUSANDS of years ago. It was formally outlawed in 1928, yes, but there hadn't been widespread slavery for centuries. But slavery in Iran was never on the same scale as America. Try something other than Wikipedia next time.

The large majority of slaves were black. There was quite a large majority of Irish slaves as well, but it doesn't even compare to the number of African slaves. Especially considering America's ugly history and present when it comes to hatred and fear of black people. Please, don't even try it. More bullshit revisionist history and acting like because there were some Irish slaves brought by the British it compares to what happened to the blacks and what still happens today. The Irish aren't forced into ghettos and weren't being lynched for hundreds of years. Nobody asked JFK for his birth certificate.

So please, educate yourself. It's embarrassing how little you know about history, and the fact that you're being hostile and slinging around insults is just pathetic. Have a juice box and calm down. I know you get a raging boner every time you see me post, but try and chill out.