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Confederate flag...

Symbol of southern pride
15 (44.1%)
Symbol of racism/slavery
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/02/black-college-student-wins-fight-to-display-confederate-flag-in-dorm-room/

srs tho, they exist
And I'm sure this is so widespread.

To most people, the flag is still a symbol of slavery.

The war was fought over the issue of slavery. I'm sure Kinder's gonna see this comment and make up some revisionist shit about states' rights or some shit.

The war was fought over slavery. Southerners were afraid the big mean northerners were going to take away their "property".

maggots who try to make it about states' rights are forgetting that the right in question was fracking slavery.

If you're PROUD of that war? PROUD of that history? You're a fracking piece of shit.
Except it wasn't all about slavery. Slave owners were a VERY small minority in the south that barely made a dent in the population; on top of which there were whites as slaves and blacks as slave owners.

Slavery ONLY became an issue when Lincoln brought it up for the sole purpose of wanting to win the war. His initial plan was to send them all to Liberia. Talk about the so called Great Emancipator, huh?

If it was all about slavery, then why was it that there states, such as Maryland, that were part of the Union and still had slaves? Because it wasn't fracking about slavery. It was about the polar opposites of the industrial north and agriculture south. Because the north was far more prosperous, they tried to increase southern taxes, something they could not afford

As I stated earlier, why not view the American and British flags as a symbol of slavery? They endorsed slavery for many decades/centuries
Stop talking out of your ass. The abolitionist movement was growing huge in the North and Southerners were afraid the growing political influence of the movement. Lincoln was elected without winning a single southern state, and that pushed them over the edge.

Fuck off with your revisionist history bullshit.


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Most slaves were actually treated well
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/02/black-college-student-wins-fight-to-display-confederate-flag-in-dorm-room/

srs tho, they exist
And I'm sure this is so widespread.

To most people, the flag is still a symbol of slavery.

The war was fought over the issue of slavery. I'm sure Kinder's gonna see this comment and make up some revisionist shit about states' rights or some shit.

The war was fought over slavery. Southerners were afraid the big mean northerners were going to take away their "property".

maggots who try to make it about states' rights are forgetting that the right in question was fracking slavery.

If you're PROUD of that war? PROUD of that history? You're a fracking piece of shit.
Except it wasn't all about slavery. Slave owners were a VERY small minority in the south that barely made a dent in the population; on top of which there were whites as slaves and blacks as slave owners.

Slavery ONLY became an issue when Lincoln brought it up for the sole purpose of wanting to win the war. His initial plan was to send them all to Liberia. Talk about the so called Great Emancipator, huh?

If it was all about slavery, then why was it that there states, such as Maryland, that were part of the Union and still had slaves? Because it wasn't fracking about slavery. It was about the polar opposites of the industrial north and agriculture south. Because the north was far more prosperous, they tried to increase southern taxes, something they could not afford

As I stated earlier, why not view the American and British flags as a symbol of slavery? They endorsed slavery for many decades/centuries
Stop talking out of your ass. The abolitionist movement was growing huge in the North and Southerners were afraid the growing political influence of the movement. Lincoln was elected without winning a single southern state, and that pushed them over the edge.

frack off with your revisionist history bullshit.
Holy shit you've been brainwashed, have you?

I used to think exactly like you. But guess what? I grew up, went online, and did independent research form various sources whose only purpose was to tell the truth. It's not revisionist history when it's what happened


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Many people think abolishing slavery was a good thing instead of letting it die off naturally. It's untrue, and it's why many blacks fought for the South. Most slaves were actually treated well, given shelter and share of the crops and were able to raise families. After the civil war the hatred made it rare for them to find jobs or live comfortably. Not to mention you're all still slaves because of the income tax. You're participating in a rigged game.
Will have to disagree with you here a bit

Slaves were treated well, but because they were the equivalent of a car. You wouldn't let your car go unattended, right? Same concept. But there have been accounts which slave owners did treat slaves properly and with dignity, it wasn't all "hur wepeng tiem"


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But guess what? I grew up,
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went online, and did independent research form various sources whose only purpose was to tell the truth. It's not revisionist history when it's what happened
Let's see these sources. I'm sure they're not revisionist history bullshit. I'm totally optimistic. Lets see it.


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Let's see these sources. I'm sure they're not revisionist history bullshit. I'm totally optimistic. Lets see it.
You're just going decline them as valid since they're not CNN, BBC, or MSNBC.
I just want to see what kind of Lost Cause propaganda this guy's gotten himself into. Southern conservatives really seem to revel in remembering things differently from how they actually happened. Makes bigoted worldviews feel more legitimate.


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Let's see these sources. I'm sure they're not revisionist history bullshit. I'm totally optimistic. Lets see it.
You're just going decline them as valid since they're not CNN, BBC, or MSNBC.
I just want to see what kind of Lost Cause propaganda this guy's gotten himself into. Southern conservatives really seem to revel in remembering things differently from how they actually happened. Makes bigoted worldviews feel more legitimate.
How about your proof first, hypocrite
Would you fuck off with the shitposting? Kinder is taking it seriously.


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Let's see these sources. I'm sure they're not revisionist history bullshit. I'm totally optimistic. Lets see it.
You're just going decline them as valid since they're not CNN, BBC, or MSNBC.
I just want to see what kind of Lost Cause propaganda this guy's gotten himself into. Southern conservatives really seem to revel in remembering things differently from how they actually happened. Makes bigoted worldviews feel more legitimate.
How about your proof first, hypocrite
Would you frack off with the shitposting? Kinder is taking it seriously.
As am I
We all know how you actually feel about these things. If you want to do this, make an alt like you did for Bnet.


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But guess what? I grew up,
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Let's see these sources. I'm sure they're not revisionist history bullshit. I'm totally optimistic. Lets see it.
Wow, you know SOOOOO much about me. Stalker of the Decade Award to you good sir!

http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation

https://hsp.org/blogs/hidden-histories/white-slavery-in-the-ante-bellum-south-and-civil-war-era-a-little-known-phenomenon

http://www.teachingushistory.org/lessons/BlackSlaveOwnersinCharleston.html

http://civilwartalk.com/threads/less-than-5-of-southerners-owned-slaves.14868/

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-07-06/news/bs-ed-gettysburg-20130706_1_slavery-constitutional-convention-secession

Now I'll wait and laugh as you try to disregard them because they don't conform to your brainwashed false knowledge
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http://www.tolerance.org/magazine/number-40-fall-2011/feature/getting-civil-war-right

You realize this article actually goes against everything you and the other links say, right? Debunking it as revisionist propaganda shit?

Read your own links before you post them.


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I've spent years educating myself about this, but it's really common sense. Who actually believe the government would go out of their way to help someone?

http://www.northcarolinahistory.org/commentary/357/entry
They didn't do it to help anyone. I'm not delusional enough to think the North fought to end slavery, they fought to hold the Union together. But the South? They were fighting to maintain slavery, so I have absolutely no respect for sympathizers.


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http://www.tolerance.org/magazine/number-40-fall-2011/feature/getting-civil-war-right

You realize this article actually goes against everything you and the other links say, right? Debunking it as revisionist propaganda shit?

Read your own links before you post them.
And that was a mistake on my part. I have shit ton of tabs opened, not only for this discussion, but this research paper I'm doing


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more debunking

http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths-about-why-the-south-seceded/2011/01/03/ABHr6jD_story.html
>washington post
>not being left-wing
At the time this article was written, it was owned by Rupert Murdoch, one of the most powerful right-wingers on the planet.

Do you even awareness?


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more debunking

http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths-about-why-the-south-seceded/2011/01/03/ABHr6jD_story.html
>washington post
>not being left-wing
At the time this article was written, it was owned by Rupert Murdoch, one of the most powerful right-wingers on the planet.

Do you even awareness?
Doesn't mean anything. It's still a left-wing influenced source


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more debunking

http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths-about-why-the-south-seceded/2011/01/03/ABHr6jD_story.html
>washington post
>not being left-wing
At the time this article was written, it was owned by Rupert Murdoch, one of the most powerful right-wingers on the planet.

Do you even awareness?
Doesn't mean anything. It's still a left-wing influenced source
I suggest, then, reading the content of the article.


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