Comprehensive article about Clinton's potential criminality- LONG read

Verbatim · April 10, 2016, 12:08:27 PM

And what are the chances of him even getting 5%?

What is the typical turnout for popular third party candidates?

I guess I could just look this stuff up myself, but fuck you.

More Than Mortal · April 10, 2016, 12:13:11 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 10, 2016, 12:08:27 PM

What is the typical turnout for popular third party candidates?

Depends how you define "popular".

George Wallace got 13.5pc in 1968. Ross Perot got 19pc in 1992.

The thing is, people really shouldn't vote for third parties with the hope of having a Libertarian or Green president. Third parties are bumblebees; they sting, and then they die.

Verbatim · April 10, 2016, 12:14:45 PM

Ralph Nader got less than 3% of the vote in 2000--Votes which could've easily gone towards Gore instead.

DAS B00T x2 · April 10, 2016, 12:15:12 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 10, 2016, 12:08:27 PM

And what are the chances of him even getting 5%?

What is the typical turnout for popular third party candidates?

I guess I could just look this stuff up myself, but fuck you.

Last year he got .99% of the popular vote, which is somewhere around a million and a quarter people, if I remember the last number right. Roughly 325,000 voters were registered libertarian in 2012, so a lot of that was probably independent and disgruntled republican voters.

More Than Mortal · April 10, 2016, 12:16:58 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 10, 2016, 12:14:45 PM

Ralph Nader got less than 3% of the vote in 2000--Votes which could've easily gone towards Gore instead.

Libertarians mostly take away votes from Republicans anyway, so at worst you're probably going to be contributing to a Hillary victory over Trump while also signalling dissatisfaction with the establishment parties.

And, even then, voting to influence the outcome isn't particularly rational. Voting is better seen through a lens of signalling.