Chelsea Manning denied treatment

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I am transphobic. I'll admit that right now. I believe all should be locked up in a mental institution.

You're either straight or gay.
The first step is admitting you don't understand. Good job.

Being trans is entirely different than being gay or straight. You still don't understand the subject. I suggest you find some resources online and become familiar with the area.


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Cool it.
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I find it difficult to believe that you've followed this case from the beginning, yet fail to understand transgender issues. There's no way you're that blinded.

I'm genuinely concerned with how you refuse to understand this subject.
Because social issues in regards to gender dysphoria have nothing to do with the actual case of Manning's information leaks, which would be what PSU is referring to.


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The first step is admitting you don't understand. Good job.

Being trans is entirely different than being gay or straight. You still don't understand the subject. I suggest you find some resources online and become familiar with the area.

No thanks. I know exactly what trans people are. They are MENTAL.

And this really has nothing to do with the case anyway. Just a liberal media ploy.
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I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
So basically some dude changed his name to chelsea. Yeah thats pretty weird.
"Weird" or not, that's still the legal name and it cannot be debated.


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kiyo, why are you wasting your time debating with PSU?

would we be worse off without his shitty opinions? would anyone object if you just banned him?
Well he's not breaking any rules. Besides we aren't Waypoint, we don't ban based on differing opinions :)


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"Weird" or not, that's still the legal name and it cannot be debated.

You are correct. I apologize for that.


 
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"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
No thanks. I know exactly what trans people are. They are MENTAL.

And this really has nothing to do with the case anyway. Just a liberal media ploy.
Birth defect actually, not a mental disorder.
It's been medically proven that sometimes in rare cases, the brain and body can develop with different levels of sex hormones, often leading to transgenderism.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Birth defect actually, not a mental disorder.
It's been medically proven that sometimes in rare cases, the brain and body can develop with different levels of sex hormones, often leading to transgenderism.
Still not the root of all, mind you.


 
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Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Still not the root of all, mind you.
Of course not. Some people just choose to be, but for others it's not something that can be changed.


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Well he's not breaking any rules. Besides we aren't Waypoint, we don't ban based on differing opinions :)
I'd argue that differing opinions are a whole different beast than naked bigotry, but hey, you're the mod.

I just don't think PSU-style shitposting is appropriate for a forum dedicated to serious discussion.


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I'd argue that differing opinions are a whole different beast than naked bigotry, but hey, you're the mod.

I just don't think PSU-style shitposting is appropriate for a forum dedicated to serious discussion.
Bigotry isn't exactly against the rules unless it's directed at another member.

Nor do I but hey I don't make the rules, only enforce em. :)


 
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"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Bigotry isn't exactly against the rules unless it's directed at another member.

Nor do I but hey I don't make the rules, only enforce em. :)
We disagree on a lot- well... most issues, but I appreciate you being the enforcer on this topic.


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We disagree on a lot- well... most issues, but I appreciate you being the enforcer on this topic.
That's what I'm here for.


 
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Hmm...
I'd argue that differing opinions are a whole different beast than naked bigotry, but hey, you're the mod.

I just don't think PSU-style shitposting is appropriate for a forum dedicated to serious discussion.
But then where would we be if we disallowed controversial topics like this one? While I do get the vibe that PSU is deliberately trying to piss people off with her opinions, this is one of those nation-wide news stories that has a lot of people split.

In any case, forcing this person to serve her sentence without treatment seems a bit cruel and unusual, in my opinion.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
While I do get the vibe that PSU is deliberately trying to piss people off with her opinions,

LOL
Last Edit: August 22, 2014, 07:17:34 PM by DemonicChronic


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Bigotry isn't exactly against the rules unless it's directed at another member.

Nor do I but hey I don't make the rules, only enforce em. :)
Fair enough.

You're a much more professional mod than I would be in your position. Be proud of that.

edit: also ^lol @ demonic's post
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While I do get the vibe that PSU is deliberately trying to piss people off with her opinions, this is one of those nation-wide news stories that has a lot of people split.

I am a he. :)


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But then where would we be if we disallowed controversial topics like this one? While I do get the vibe that PSU is deliberately trying to piss people off with her opinions, this is one of those nation-wide news stories that has a lot of people split.

In any case, forcing this person to serve her sentence without treatment seems a bit cruel and unusual, in my opinion.
Controversial opinions are fine, but posts made for the specific purpose of antagonizing people shouldn't be tolerated, IMO. All it does is drive down the level of discourse and derail otherwise quality threads.


 
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Hmm...
I am a he. :)
Oops, my bad :o. Didn't mean to misgender you.


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Oops, my bad :o. Didn't mean to misgender you.

All good. No problem.


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Controversial opinions are fine, but posts made for the specific purpose of antagonizing people shouldn't be tolerated, IMO.

I agree 100%


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Controversial opinions are fine, but posts made for the specific purpose of antagonizing people shouldn't be tolerated, IMO. All it does is drive down the level of discourse and derail otherwise quality threads.

If we take a very strict approach to that issue then it has the potential to cause problems for people who may not have been acting very seriously and it leaves much less room for 'joshing' other members. I dig lax moderation and a less uptight board.

Some kid can make a joke and a mod could potentially take offense and give him the boot. Then you get people complaining about harsh rules etc. and so much more shit for mods to have to take care of.


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I agree 100%
and yet, that's precisely what you did here.


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and yet, that's precisely what you did here.

Not at all. I posted my opinions and you attacked me.


 
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Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Not at all. I posted my opinions and you attacked me.
Oh really?

Good. Its a HE.
That looks pretty antagonizing to me.


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If we take a very strict approach to that issue then it has the potential to cause problems for people who may not have been acting very seriously and it leaves much less room for 'joshing' other members. I dig lax moderation and a less uptight board.

Some kid can make a joke and a mod could potentially take offense and give him the boot. Then you get people complaining about harsh rules etc. and so much more shit for mods to have to take care of.
That would be a fine justification for The Flood or Gaming, but isn't this forum in particular supposed to be dedicated to serious discussion (hence the name)?


 
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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
That would be a fine justification for The Flood or Gaming, but isn't this forum in particular supposed to be dedicated to serious discussion (hence the name)?
I think the moderation is fine as it is.


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Not at all. I posted my opinions and you attacked me.
what you posted wasn't an opinion. It was blatant ignorance and bigotry on the subject.


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That would be a fine justification for The Flood or Gaming, but isn't this forum in particular supposed to be dedicated to serious discussion (hence the name)?
We had stricter rules here but they didn't work out. It's fine as it is.