Catalonia declares independence

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Now we weigh European freedom concept.


 
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Nationalism on the rise, a civil war in spain, race riots in america, Emperor Macron reforming the HRE...man, I fucking hate it when there's nothing but reruns on tv.
Last Edit: October 27, 2017, 12:37:23 PM by DAS B00T x2


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41783289
Rajoy just dissolved the Catalan parliament.

Fug

They REALLY want this region.


 
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Spanish Inquisition when?


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Mossos and Spanish Police have already been engaged in one confrontation.

Avoiding Civil War would be a miracle.


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Mr Rajoy said: "Spain is a serious country, it is a great nation and we are not prepared in any way to allow some people to liquidate our constitution."

I love how this simultaneously forces Spanish rule down Catalan throats, and alienates them as 'some people'.


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European countries and why not also other countries should recognize Catalonia's independence.
Last Edit: October 27, 2017, 05:55:05 PM by Genghis Khan


 
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We should balkanize the iberian peninsula.

Fuck, we should balkanize all of Europe.

And America.


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We should balkanize the iberian peninsula.

Fuck, we should balkanize all of Europe.

And America.

I'm developing a victim complex already


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Puigdemont was formally deposed by Spain today.

The Separatists still recognise him as their president.


 
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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
who knows this could end with them getting what they want


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The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
who knows this could end with them getting what they want

Well the Nazis and Franco ain't around to help now.

Yugo-spanic wars when?


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?

Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.

They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?

Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.

They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.
Not to mention that most European countries would not have officially recognised Catalonia as a sovereign nation.

Not giving Spain a free pass with how they've handled the situation but the Catalonian government had to have expected some sort of backlash to this. You don't autistically screech your way to independence and expect your neighbouring allies to just buck up and accept it.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?

Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.

They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.
Not to mention that most European countries would not have officially recognised Catalonia as a sovereign nation.

Not giving Spain a free pass with how they've handled the situation but the Catalonian government had to have expected some sort of backlash to this. You don't autistically screech your way to independence and expect your neighbouring allies to just buck up and accept it.

Well I mean...

Britain's trying now after the indyref trial run a year earlier .


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?

Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.

They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.
Not to mention that most European countries would not have officially recognised Catalonia as a sovereign nation.

Not giving Spain a free pass with how they've handled the situation but the Catalonian government had to have expected some sort of backlash to this. You don't autistically screech your way to independence and expect your neighbouring allies to just buck up and accept it.

Well I mean...

Britain's trying now after the indyref trial run a year earlier .
Yeah but other countries recognise the UK as an actual country


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Britain isn't screeching like a child to a bunch of grown ups, it's the other way around.

Britain's trying now after the indyref trial run a year earlier.


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I feel like Catalonia fucked themselves over a bit. They were basically their own nation minus a few things, and now they're not going to get that at all.
They don't want to pay taxes to Madrid. They aren't ethnic Spanish so they should have the right to decide for their future.
It's always about fucking money, isn't it? They supposedly contribute 1/5 of Spain's economy while making 16 percent of the total population. They just wanna put it back in their fat wallets.
If you could have 25% more of your own money, wouldn't you secede?

Doesn't mean much when most of their trade is to Spain and the EU, which has already been outlined to them that cessation will also take them out of the EU and all those lovely money-making trade deals.

They'd have to renegotiate EU membership and trade as well as build back bridges to Spain before they'd see any of that "freed up" 25%.
Not to mention that most European countries would not have officially recognised Catalonia as a sovereign nation.

Not giving Spain a free pass with how they've handled the situation but the Catalonian government had to have expected some sort of backlash to this. You don't autistically screech your way to independence and expect your neighbouring allies to just buck up and accept it.

Well I mean...

Britain's trying now after the indyref trial run a year earlier .
Yeah but we're leaving a supranational union, not an entire country. Plus we had a legalised, approved-by-parliament election on it. Both sides could have handled this way better through negotiations, but neither wanted to hear the other's grievances and concerns. It was a clusterfuck of a political situation from top to bottom.