Car rams counter-protesters at far-right rally (1 dead, 19 injured)

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I'm waiting for the Alex Jones video where he talks about the Left hiring the driver to Dodge Ram those protestors.
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Does anyone really believe these people would be allowed to affect the political landscape to that extent?
Yes, because not opposing the opposition is how you lose political power.
I didn't say to not oppose them, just to stop taking them seriously. If a white-nationalist candidate runs for some office then of course, by all means, elect their opposition. These people are a fringe minority. Despite what some people would like to believe, the majority of the right are not actually nazis.
You're gonna have to a bit more specific than just say we should "stop taking them seriously". Their movements appear to be gaining more traction and growing in boldness and numbers. You throw enormous mountains of evidence of climate change at people, and the US now has an open climate change denier as its leader who's withdrawing from CC conventions, repealing environment protection rules, removing government funded evidence from the white house resources and instating a cabinet that opposes climate change measures. You ignore anti-vaxx idiots and shower them with reasons as to why they're wrong on all media and in public demonstrations, and still preventable diseases are making a comeback because the anti-vaxx movement is continuing to grow.

It's easy to say that they just shouldn't be taken seriously and that we should treat them as a joke. But at any given time, there's thousands upon thousands of (often young and impressionable) people who end up watching propaganda youtube videos, seeing misleading political memes, reading downright false posts on Facebook, Twitter and social media groups, or being fed bullshit by others on forums or chats. And every single day, a good number of people seeing this drivel will go "you know what, they have a point". And they turn away from reputable sources in favor of slanted youtube videos and shitty alternative "news" outlets. "My side is 100% right and the only one that knows the truth, while the other is 100% wrong and the enemy that needs to be defeated so things can become better again". They enter an echo chamber and surround themselves with people who will confirm their views and biases, and they will continue to detest and exclude any other viewpoints to the point that the only time they see or hear anything of these other people is when they see clips of masked antifa activists macing "their people" and chanting violent slogans.

It's easy to say that just ignoring the problem is going to make it go away or amount to nothing. That they should just be treated as a joke. But they're a rabbit hole. These people don't start as literal neo-nazis, thinking they're genetically superior and that white is right. It starts small. A misleading facebook post here, some fake news there, the occasional political meme oversimplying an issue and showing how the "others" are morons incapable of grasping common sense... It's a seed that's planted. And then it's watered with a lot of confirmation bias. "Have you heard that this news site made a mistake in an article? Yeah man, fake news, the lot of it. All biased and MSM left wing propaganda. Best stay away from them and stick to reputable sites bringing you the real news, like RadicalConservativeNews.com or BanAllLiberals.blogspot.com". And then they're made to feel like they're under attack and threatened. "Yeah man, we were just protesting peacefully in our combat gear carrying torches, bats, rocks and shields while chanting DEATH TO ANTIFA so we were really not doing anything (this guy who thinks just like us and has been on our team for ages and just drove his car into a crowd wasn't really part of us, just so you know) but then we were maced because we're being censored and everyone hates free speech but us".

And at that point, the propaganda really takes hold. Blatant misrepresentations and poor understanding of statistics lead to them just eating up anything and everything. Jews are controlling the world and are planning to get rid of the white race. Foreigners only want to rape and pillage ("have you even SEEN what happens in SWEDEN AND GERMANY??") and impose sharia law everywhere. Nazism isn't that bad and the holocaust really is just exaggerated (just look at these debunked reports from widely discredited "researchers"). Their marches are innocent because they have titles such as "unity" and "freedom" in them, so there's no harm here. We are the good guys here. They're regressive and want to keep the truth hidden so that they can force anyone to fall in line with their emotions and lies.

There's a lot less moderation and center remaining. It's a lot easier now to get radicalized and learn to hate the other. The most extreme drag the rest down with them on both sides. Fascism doesn't happen overnight. Extremist ideas become increasingly normalized. So people pick sides. And they're not all rabid racists and nazis. But they do slowly side with them. Because they're still "their people" fighting the good fight against "the other". And it's very easy for these impressionable people who are already into the shithole to be told that "nooo, we're not REAL nazis, that's fake news! We just want to protect the white heritage and our conservative rights against the enemy who will subjugate us all if we don't do something soon. That's not unreasonable is it?" It's easy to forget, but I think you underestimate how easy it is for these hateful ideals to slowly take hold under the guise of something else entirely.
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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Does anyone really believe these people would be allowed to affect the political landscape to that extent?
Yes, because not opposing the opposition is how you lose political power.
I didn't say to not oppose them, just to stop taking them seriously. If a white-nationalist candidate runs for some office then of course, by all means, elect their opposition. These people are a fringe minority. Despite what some people would like to believe, the majority of the right are not actually nazis.
You're gonna have to a bit more specific than just say we should "stop taking them seriously". Their movements appear to be gaining more traction and growing in boldness and numbers. You throw enormous mountains of evidence of climate change at people, and the US now has an open climate change denier as its leader who's withdrawing from CC conventions, repealing environment protection rules, removing government funded evidence from the white house resources and instating a cabinet that opposes climate change measures. You ignore anti-vaxx idiots and shower them with reasons as to why they're wrong on all media and in public demonstrations, and still preventable diseases are making a comeback because the anti-vaxx movement is continuing to grow.

It's easy to say that they just shouldn't be taken seriously and that we should treat them as a joke. But at any given time, there's thousands upon thousands of (often young and impressionable) people who end up watching propaganda youtube videos, seeing misleading political memes, reading downright false posts on Facebook, Twitter and social media groups, or being fed bullshit by others on forums or chats. And every single day, a good number of people seeing this drivel will go "you know what, they have a point". And they turn away from reputable sources in favor of slanted youtube videos and shitty alternative "news" outlets. "My side is 100% right and the only one that knows the truth, while the other is 100% wrong and the enemy that needs to be defeated so things can become better again". They enter an echo chamber and surround themselves with people who will confirm their views and biases, and they will continue to detest and exclude any other viewpoints to the point that the only time they see or hear anything of these other people is when they see clips of masked antifa activists macing "their people" and chanting violent slogans.

It's easy to say that just ignoring the problem is going to make it go away or amount to nothing. That they should just be treated as a joke. But they're a rabbit hole. These people don't start as literal neo-nazis, thinking they're genetically superior and that white is right. It starts small. A misleading facebook post here, some fake news there, the occasional political meme oversimplying an issue and showing how the "others" are morons incapable of grasping common sense... It's a seed that's planted. And then it's watered with a lot of confirmation bias. "Have you heard that this news site made a mistake in an article? Yeah man, fake news, the lot of it. All biased and MSM left wing propaganda. Best stay away from them and stick to reputable sites bringing you the real news, like RadicalConservativeNews.com or BanAllLiberals.blogspot.com". And then they're made to feel like they're under attack and threatened. "Yeah man, we were just protesting peacefully in our combat gear carrying torches, bats, rocks and shields while chanting DEATH TO ANTIFA so we were really not doing anything (this guy who thinks just like us and has been on our team for ages and just drove his car into a crowd wasn't really part of us, just so you know) but then we were maced because we're being censored and everyone hates free speech but us".

And at that point, the propaganda really takes hold. Blatant misrepresentations and poor understanding of statistics lead to them just eating up anything and everything. Jews are controlling the world and are planning to get rid of the white race. Foreigners only want to rape and pillage ("have you even SEEN what happens in SWEDEN AND GERMANY??") and impose sharia law everywhere. Nazism isn't that bad and the holocaust really is just exaggerated (just look at these debunked reports from widely discredited "researchers"). Their marches are innocent because they have titles such as "unity" and "freedom" in them, so there's no harm here. We are the good guys here. They're regressive and want to keep the truth hidden so that they can force anyone to fall in line with their emotions and lies.

There's a lot less moderation and center remaining. It's a lot easier now to get radicalized and learn to hate the other. The most extreme drag the rest down with them on both sides. Fascism doesn't happen overnight. Extremist ideas become increasingly normalized. So people pick sides. And they're not all rabid racists and nazis. But they do slowly side with them. Because they're still "their people" fighting the good fight against "the other". And it's very easy for these impressionable people who are already into the shithole to be told that "nooo, we're not REAL nazis, that's fake news! We just want to protect the white heritage and our conservative rights against the enemy who will subjugate us all if we don't do something soon. That's not unreasonable is it?" It's easy to forget, but I think you underestimate how easy it is for these hateful ideals to slowly take hold under the guise of something else entirely.
Again, I didn't say to ignore the problem. I didn't say to not oppose them. I said to stop taking them seriously as a threat to western values. There's a major difference between treating someone as a joke and ignoring them. You can't laugh at something you don't pay attention to.

These people believe they're at war with the left. The left needs to stop giving them that war. More and more of these young impressionable right leaning kids are falling prey to white-nationalist ideology because they are beginning to feel ostracized by left leaning ideologues who, despite not being an actual majority in society, have a very loud and far reaching voice. And yes, confirmation bias is a problem and we should be looking to sort out this issue with 'fake news.' We desperately need more honest journalism.

The vast majority of people just want what is reasonable. Both left and right extremes need to be portrayed as unreasonable as they are. But we don't need to put it into young left leaning kids heads that there's a war going on against the right, That white nationalism is somehow on the verge of taking over the west, and that they need to be out there fighting Nazis.

So yes, turn them into a laughing stock. Make them out to be the fools that they are. That doesn't mean to not take any threats of violence seriously, or to not have oversight over what they're doing. But stop acting like they're going to sway the vast majority of reasonable people in the west. Stop acting like a white ethno-state is a possibility. The left needs to do this to the extreme right as much as the right needs to do this to the extreme left. Both sides are radicalizing more people because both sides are acting like the majority of the other is composed of its extreme, and as if that extreme is on the verge of taking over the state instead of treating each extreme like the fringe minority that it is.

By taking the extreme right so seriously, you don't prevent young kids from joining it, but what you do is exacerbate the number of kids joining the extreme left. And that goes the other way as well. If this continues, eventually the extremes won't be so much of a fringe minority anymore.

As I said before, one side is going to have to take the initiative to deescalate. Otherwise the polarization is going to continue to grow, and the violence is only going to get worse.
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How is a white ethno-state not a possibility? Whites could start killing nonwhites in in the thousands overnight. Anything could happen. If I've learned anything in life it's that there really aren't any rules or boundaries people won't cross given the right circumstances.


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How is a white ethno-state not a possibility? Whites could start killing nonwhites in in the thousands overnight. Anything could happen. If I've learned anything in life it's that there really aren't any rules or boundaries people won't cross given the right circumstances.
If people move here they have to assimilate into our culture. That's the only way it is going to work.


 
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How is a white ethno-state not a possibility? Whites could start killing nonwhites in in the thousands overnight. Anything could happen. If I've learned anything in life it's that there really aren't any rules or boundaries people won't cross given the right circumstances.
If people move here they have to assimilate into our culture. That's the only way it is going to work.
You don't gotta be a whitey to assimilate into American culture. In fact some of the things people most identify as American the most such as Baseball and Football, are comprised of both around 30% Latino, and a majority of Blacks respectively.

Besides, American culture is so damn vague outside of the obvious guns and muh free speech obsession. It kind of just muddles together with "western" culture in general.
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I think you're kind of missing the main points of my post.

1. Treating something like a joke doesn't necessarily make it any less serious. You laugh at climate change deniers / anti-vaxxers and shower them with facts and reason, and yet the US now has a president voted for by almost half the country who is both a CC denier and anti-vaxxer, all while certain preventable diseases are making a comeback and environmental protection regulations are being repealed. It's clear that showing these people that they are wrong and not giving them any credibility whatsoever doesn't necessarily work at all.

2. This isn't an all or nothing scenario where the only way these people succeed is when they turn the West into the Fourth Reich. Just like with the examples above, it's possible for them to do a lot of damage well before they get there. Populism has been on the rise in many parts of the world. Anti-intellectualism, denial of science and alternative facts are commonplace and often encouraged. We see Trump, Brexit and far right nationalist leaders becoming more popular go hand in hand with increases in crime against minorities and the radicalization of fringe groups now feeling empowered. These people helped elect Trump who, when asked to condemn neo nazis executing terror attacks in the US, literally just turned around and walked out of the room without answering. Sure, the literal nazis donning swastikas might be a fringe minority, but the gist of their ideals is taking hold with many more. I'll try finding an article I read about it earlier, but it basically said that many of the influential people in these movements realize that their way forward is not by banking on a new generation of all people saluting Hitler or burning crosses in white gowns. Their future is to turn these beliefs into something mainstream that slowly slides down a slope, and they're succeeding at it.

As I said earlier, I think you're underestimating this. It's easy to say that we can just treat it as a joke and a fringe minority doomed to fail, but every single day more and more people are taking on these extremist views, only now with a nice bow on it. "I'm not a climate change denier, but you're not gonna tell me global warming is real as long as it still snows on Christmas! I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you're not gonna convince me that a baby needs all these chemicals injected! I'm not a racist nazi, but I just think that whites should fight back against jews and foreigners!" Violence is not the answer, but I think you're wrong in saying that dismissing them as a joke and fools with a vision that can never succeed is going to accomplish anything. Because they don't need a Fourth Reich to win. They just need their extreme ideals to find a more mainstream audience. And while we just laugh at them, the process I described in my earlier post turns many moderates into hardliners who eagerly embrace the "nazi/extremist/racist/counter-factual" views, only now as a lite and slightly fluffier version.
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Here's the article, btw. Can't vouch at all for the source and haven't checked every claim they made, but I think the gist of it is pretty solid.

"The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) rally in Charlottesville last month was a properly audacious event. The terrorist organization, once confined to the shadows of clandestine gatherings, felt emboldened to reveal themselves publicly. This should come as no real surprise. We live in a political age where creeping white nationalism, supremacy, xenophobia, and hatred of the ‘other’ is being mainstreamed in a very real and very subversive way. The conditions for the KKK to come out of the shadows has never been better.

While they will always pose a risk to public safety given their history of terrorism and violence, they are no longer the primary threat to equality and multiculturalism. In the contest of ideas that now defines this political age, they have lost. They are too old, too redneck, and their brand too toxic. They have not mastered the art of strategic messaging, free media, or how to present themselves in a way that can capture new social voice and recruits.

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Because ‘Unite the Right’ represents a pivot away from an outdated expression of racism and supremacy that people – especially young people – will never grow accustomed too. The ability to scale messaging into new spaces and new demographics is not available for a group like the KKK anymore – even though some of the core belief system is the same. What is available, however, is conversation and rhetoric that advocates supporting ‘Western Civilization’ and ‘Awakened European Identity’. This is how the current white nationalist conversation is being mainstreamed to push their supremacist agenda.

Duke, like many others, knows that the future is not in robe-wearing Klansmen, but in the slow merging of white nationalism and national identity with conservative politics into a coherent mainstream ideology. This ideology, known as ethno-nationalism, is defined by the idea of shared heritage that includes common language, faith, racial, and cultural origins. Translation: White European Christians."

https://rvamag.com/politics/virginia-politics/opinion-the-real-threat-is-unite-the-right/
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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
I think you're kind of missing the main points of my post.

1. Treating something like a joke doesn't necessarily make it any less serious. You laugh at climate change deniers / anti-vaxxers and shower them with facts and reason, and yet the US now has a president voted for by almost half the country who is both a CC denier and anti-vaxxer, all while certain preventable diseases are making a comeback and environmental protection regulations are being repealed. It's clear that showing these people that they are wrong and not giving them any credibility whatsoever doesn't necessarily work at all.

2. This isn't an all or nothing scenario where the only way these people succeed is when they turn the West into the Fourth Reich. Just like with the examples above, it's possible for them to do a lot of damage well before they get there. Populism has been on the rise in many parts of the world. Anti-intellectualism, denial of science and alternative facts are commonplace and often encouraged. We see Trump, Brexit and far right nationalist leaders becoming more popular go hand in hand with increases in crime against minorities and the radicalization of fringe groups now feeling empowered. These people helped elect Trump who, when asked to condemn neo nazis executing terror attacks in the US, literally just turned around and walked out of the room without answering. Sure, the literal nazis donning swastikas might be a fringe minority, but the gist of their ideals is taking hold with many more. I'll try finding an article I read about it earlier, but it basically said that many of the influential people in these movements realize that their way forward is not by banking on a new generation of all people saluting Hitler or burning crosses in white gowns. Their future is to turn these beliefs into something mainstream that slowly slides down a slope, and they're succeeding at it.

As I said earlier, I think you're underestimating this. It's easy to say that we can just treat it as a joke and a fringe minority doomed to fail, but every single day more and more people are taking on these extremist views, only now with a nice bow on it. "I'm not a climate change denier, but you're not gonna tell me global warming is real as long as it still snows on Christmas! I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but you're not gonna convince me that a baby needs all these chemicals injected! I'm not a racist nazi, but I just think that whites should fight back against jews and foreigners!" Violence is not the answer, but I think you're wrong in saying that dismissing them as a joke and fools with a vision that can never succeed is going to accomplish anything. Because they don't need a Fourth Reich to win. They just need their extreme ideals to find a more mainstream audience. And while we just laugh at them, the process I described in my earlier post turns many moderates into hardliners who eagerly embrace the "nazi/extremist/racist/counter-factual" views, only now as a lite and slightly fluffier version.
What I'm getting from you is that you think they need to be taken more seriously than you believe I think they should be taken. Which isn't exactly false, I do think they should be taken less seriously than you seem to think. However, than doesn't mean I think they shouldn't be taken seriously at all, just as a threat to western values. I believe it's entirely possible that these people can shake the political landscape and already have done so, but perhaps the extent to which I believe they can do that is less that what you believe. I think we're going to have to just agree to disagree on that issue.

Having observed the political landscape for the past year or so, I can see that society is becoming increasingly more polarized. It's has become apparent to me that the more the left hypes the 'scourge of the alt-right and the fascists,' the more hysteria they create, and in turn, the more people they radicalize on the left end of the political spectrum as a response to the supposed rise of the radical right. This also happens in reverse. The more the right hypes the 'scourge of the radical left, and the communists' the more hysteria they create as well and in turn, the more people they radicalize on the right end of the political spectrum. The two sides seem to feed off of the hysteria of the other and continually they amass support. As of now they are still fringe minorities but if something does not change then they will not be so fringe in the coming future.

I'm sorry but I believe that at least one side, but preferably both, are going to have to stop acting like the other is such a serious and imminent threat. I think making both extremes out to be a joke and a collective of nutcases would be far more effective at combating the increased polarization than continuing to portray them as an imminent threat to our society's values.

Both sides seemed to act like they had to go and fight in a culture war, and now they are fighting in a culture war. One that they themselves created as a result of thinking they had to go out and fight in one in the first place.
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You must live a pretty shitty existence then if you need some overweight dude who ripped off Ghost to keep you happy.


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I listen to Alex Jones because there's so much leftist propaganda and I'm sick of it. Schools, media, TV, entertainment are all on the left and the right-wing are nowhere to be found. I'm tired of hearing how bad we are.
Alex Jones once had some good points early on, but now has gone off the rails. And is making claims without looking at the details. He is not a Conservative. And the groups he has unwittingly allied with are both theocrats and racists. These two groups have started filling the ranks of the Conservative side and buried all conservative views that are pragmatic for ideological drivel. Like Sanders did, but even he was at least someone you could reason with, and he was willing to change his views, I believe the leader of the Green Party was more closer to an idological idiot.

Alex Jones went off the rails, but Trump a birther is further off the rails than Alex ever was. The only way I see the original Alex Jones ever supporting Trump is to instigate a revolution to destroy American and rebuild it based on the Constitution. His main goal is the death of the American government, to bring change. This means breaking down the pillars of the evil enemies that rule America, which include in his eyes Wall Street, Silicon Valley, the Military Complex and the Jews. But that was when I used to watch him many years ago due to curiosity. He used to also have a following with Muslim extremist, and was used as a preacher to the evils of America. Would not be surprised if he still does have that following.

But somewhere along the line he lost himself to paranoia and has been ranting for quite some time.


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You must live a pretty shitty existence then if you need some overweight dude who ripped off Ghost to keep you happy.
Super male vitality beats Michael Moore. And it's not just Alex, there's Paul Joseph Watson, and others conservatives to admire.
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It wasn't even terrorism, fucking bias media. The guy drives in there and slows down. You can tell by his fucking brake lights. Some Antifag hits his car with a bat and the rest begin to surround him. That's when he hit the gas. He probably wasn't going to hurt anyone until the commies provoked him.
For the brake light image you do see damage done to his car. There's a crack below the white center light and on the left of the plate you see what appears to be a scratch or a dent. It wouldn't surprise if some counter protest members started attacking his car which caused in to freak out. When you have people who are dumb enough to block interstates it's not too much to imagine there's going to be people attacking people on the other side when they're in groups, which gives the people a sense of protection and increased arrogance. 
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You guys should watch the Harry Potter goes neo nazi informer movie. There's a guy in there who's basically Alex Jones 2.0 and is clearly inspired by him. When arrested by the FBI in relation to a terrorist plot, he gets scared and admits he doesn't believe half of the shit he says but just does it for the money and fame, as his nutbag audience eats that shit up and is willing to sponsor him and buy his merchandise as long as he feeds their fear and pretends to be a tough guy fighting for truth. I could well be wrong, but I think Jones isn't any different. I doubt he still believes much of what he says. But he has gained a large following and it's just a business to him at this point. Make money from his show and sites, pander apocalyptic conspiracy theories, get sponsored by people who he provides propaganda for and then sucker thousands of people into buying his snake oil and low quality products because Obama is going to crash and burn the country any day now so you really need his survival kits and performance enhancers to counteract the chemicals the government puts in your water to weaken you when they take over.
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