About the shooting: one of my Army buddies posted this

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That's because, to a lot of liberals, it does mean that. Many republicans are strongly in favor or increasing restrictions on criminals or the mentally ill, more strict rules for concealed carry, etc.
Psychopaths don't wear labels, unless you plan on screening out anyone who has ever been diagnosed with depression or been on Prozac, plenty are going to get through.

I'm not sure what your point is other than the painfully obvious fact that mental illness is difficult to discriminate which really has very little to do with what I'm actually saying.



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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Did the company complete all necessary actions including background checks, yada yada?
To sell accessories and non-regulated items?

Oh, so they aren't required to conduct background checks on firearms?

I see a problem there
They didn't sell him a firearm.

My bad, misread.

It still should not be that easy to walk in and say "Hey, I need 40,60,80 rounds of ammunition."

It takes more work to get a damn drivers license than it does to get a gun and ammunition in some places.
You don't need to pull out a drivers license to buy car accessories (wiper blades, gas, etc.), Why would you need some sort of gun license to buy that stuff?


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Deterrence, though, would logically work.
Not really. It fails to factor in other nuances.

The vast majority of people don't have military grade training, and not everyone can handle stressful combat situations competently. This deterrence meme, as always, starts with the presupposition that absolutely nothing can go wrong when shit hits the fan because having a gun automatically makes you the T-800 capable of landing military precision shots.


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This whole republican/conservative vs democrat/liberal is a childish mentality that people need to grow out of. It's the typical us vs them mindset and each party assumes the stance of a political group is absolute. That's why nothing gets done. We can't blame this on a political paradigm when it was one person and multitude of variables that contributed to this. Just my 2 ¢


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Deterrence, though, would logically work.
Not really. It fails to factor in other nuances.

The vast majority of people don't have military grade training, and not everyone can handle stressful combat situations competently. This deterrence meme, as always, starts with the presupposition that absolutely nothing can go wrong when shit hits the fan because having a gun automatically makes you the T-800 capable of landing military precision shots.
you're confusing deterrence with defense.

Deterrence works like this.

I have a gun.
You have a gun too.

Because we are both capable of inflicting tremendous damage on each other, it is in neither of our interests to act aggressively.
Again, this is such an infantile lens to look through.

What guns are we talking about? What kind of people we talking about? Psychopaths tend to not really care about inflicting tremendous damage to others and/or themselves. Is this in a public area or an small restaurant/shop? What about those who aren't interested in guns? They just supposed to deal with a bunch of assholes swinging AKs around on a street corner?

See, it's half assed cop out answers like this is why I find the "deterrence" argument so fucking facile.


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