Can English be the official language of the US?

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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.
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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.
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Then what's the point?


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.
>missed the point
Then what's the point?
Spain having Spanish as its official language isn't relevant at all to the US since their situation in immigration isn't anything like the USA's situation in immigration.


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.
>missed the point
Then what's the point?
Spain having Spanish as its official language isn't relevant at all to the US since their situation in immigration isn't anything like the USA's situation in immigration.
Ah, well, the US should change because of the high Mexican in flow?


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.
>missed the point
Then what's the point?
Spain having Spanish as its official language isn't relevant at all to the US since their situation in immigration isn't anything like the USA's situation in immigration.
Ah, well, the US should change because of the high Mexican in flow?
Well, the US doesn't have any official language to speak of. And there are many immigrants from China, Vietnam, Philippines, and Central America are coming in as well. So US society should become more open to foreigners since there's such a diverse range of immigrants coming in, and trying to assimilate them all into the preestablished American culture would be absolutely hopeless.


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Yeah, duh.

Spain's official language is Spanish even though they share borders with Portugal and France.
Yet they don't have Portuguese and French immigrants flowing into there en masse, yes?

Immigration in the EU is a far different subject than immigration in the US since they face very different immigration situations and have different immigration policies.
Spanish is still the official language.
>missed the point
Then what's the point?
Spain having Spanish as its official language isn't relevant at all to the US since their situation in immigration isn't anything like the USA's situation in immigration.
Ah, well, the US should change because of the high Mexican in flow?
Well, the US doesn't have any official language to speak of. And there are many immigrants from China, Vietnam, Philippines, and Central America are coming in as well. So US society should become more open to foreigners since there's such a diverse range of immigrants coming in, and trying to assimilate them all into the preestablished American culture would be absolutely hopeless.
Oh I get it now. Its just hard to change the already established American way of life, but I understand that flexibility needs to occur.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place forever though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.
Funny, I actually live about 50 miles down south of San Francisco. I like it here far more than other parts of the US.

Which country you living in right now then? And are you a US national, foreign national, or what?


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.
Funny, I actually live about 50 miles down south of San Francisco. I like it here far more than other parts of the US.

Which country you living in right now then? And are you a US national, foreign national, or what?
Dual national from Australia and England. Currently in England.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.
Funny, I actually live about 50 miles down south of San Francisco. I like it here far more than other parts of the US.

Which country you living in right now then? And are you a US national, foreign national, or what?
Dual national from Australia and England. Currently in England.
Mmm, England's a fun place. Got quite a bit of family down in London, and it's well off the beaten path, and it's a great city to just stroll around. Countryside's really fricking beautiful there as well.

How the fuck did you end up being a national of Australia and England though? Those are two very different countries to be citizens of. But then again, so are the US and Greece.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.
Funny, I actually live about 50 miles down south of San Francisco. I like it here far more than other parts of the US.

Which country you living in right now then? And are you a US national, foreign national, or what?
Dual national from Australia and England. Currently in England.
Mmm, England's a fun place. Got quite a bit of family down in London, and it's well off the beaten path, and it's a great city to just stroll around. Countryside's really fricking beautiful there as well.

How the fuck did you end up being a national of Australia and England though? Those are two very different countries to be citizens of. But then again, so are the US and Greece.
Lived in Australia for 11 years; gained citizenship after like 2.
Born in England.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.
Funny, I actually live about 50 miles down south of San Francisco. I like it here far more than other parts of the US.

Which country you living in right now then? And are you a US national, foreign national, or what?
Dual national from Australia and England. Currently in England.
Mmm, England's a fun place. Got quite a bit of family down in London, and it's well off the beaten path, and it's a great city to just stroll around. Countryside's really fricking beautiful there as well.

How the fuck did you end up being a national of Australia and England though? Those are two very different countries to be citizens of. But then again, so are the US and Greece.
Lived in Australia for 11 years; gained citizenship after like 2.
Born in England.
Oh fuck, how old are you then? >___>



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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Cause many Americans never leave the US (even for visiting other countries), and many of the ones who do never stay in other countries long enough for there to be a need to learn another language. Shows how much money they make. Or at least what their priorities are.

So the vast majority of the people here only know English, unfortunately.
But they come into contact with foreign nationals so much; and their automatic response is to complain that someone from another country isn't fluent in their language.
How the hell do they think people even get fluent in the first place?
I really have no explanation for that. I think it's fucking stupid. But it really depends on who you talk to. Some people are open minded, and others hate all foreigners. There seems to be an aversion to foreign things, but I can't really say for certain since I'm living in an area where there's a huge amount of foreign nationals compared to other parts of the country.

In the end, it largely depends on which part of the US you're in. Some parts are very intolerant, and other parts are more tolerant. And I was thankfully born in a part with a large foreign population.
I have come across people in my home countries who're also really xenophobic; but there seems to be less of them on average than those I've met from America. I dunno, it just never really occurred to me to be angry that people are coming to my country as it just means we get to meet more interesting people.
Yeah, it's such crap.

More icing on the giant cake which is my reason to leave this place though. The day is coming soon when I no longer have to wake up every morning in the US and I cannot wait for it..
I lived in San Francisco for a while, and really liked it there. Lots of nice non-judgemental people.
But overall, I prefer living outside the US.
Funny, I actually live about 50 miles down south of San Francisco. I like it here far more than other parts of the US.

Which country you living in right now then? And are you a US national, foreign national, or what?
Dual national from Australia and England. Currently in England.
Mmm, England's a fun place. Got quite a bit of family down in London, and it's well off the beaten path, and it's a great city to just stroll around. Countryside's really fricking beautiful there as well.

How the fuck did you end up being a national of Australia and England though? Those are two very different countries to be citizens of. But then again, so are the US and Greece.
Lived in Australia for 11 years; gained citizenship after like 2.
Born in England.
Oh fuck, how old are you then? >___>
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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Because living in an English speaking state for most of your life and having it slowly become less and less available just because some ignorant fuckheads don't want to learn a language is quite annoying. Going more north in the US would be different, but living in Arizona really fucking gets me mad seeing more immigrants illegally cross here, and because they don't want to learn a new language, we have to accommodate for their misdeed. It's the change which drives Americans insane. They're self centered as a culture.


 
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French has to be learned in Canada.
>probably living in Quebec
I live in Ontario and had to learn French for the first 10 years of schooling.
Hm, so I take it you're living in a major urban area then.

Sandtrap as we all know, lives in middle of nowhere Saskatchewan where I doubt that there's more than a dozen French speakers, so he won't have to learn it.

All the upsides to living in a Federal country, eh?

Actually about 40-50 mins away from me there's a town called Xenon.

French arcitecture and a completely french speaking community. Population of about 400-600.

But, yes. In British Columbia and Saskatchewan, french was an optional class to take.
Tried looking up Xenon in google earth, and nothing came up.

OMG tell me the name of your city. I want to know which city everyone in this forum lives in AGHHHHH

God I'm stupid. Zenon Park. Now I remember.

Chelan.
Bjorkdale.
Hudson Bay.
Tisdale.
Melfort.
Carragana
Somme
Weekes
Moose Jaw
Saskatoon
Regina
Prince Albert
Greenwater National Park
Prarie River
Mistatim

Those are all places I've been to, plus many others I forget. Go take a tour of my province while your on vacation comms.


 
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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Aside from most people not having a need to communicate with anyone outside of the English speaking population, schools teach second languages far too late and often in poor, outdated, memorization based ways. so even though language credits are often needed for high school graduation, nobody really learns them.


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It's already the de facto official language.

And making a language official won't really have any impact. Many countries only have like 20% of the population speaking the official language.
The US would have a good impact if it's mandatory, people already are fed up with immigrants coming in and not learning the most used language. If something like, more barriers to do things were in place for not knowing English, it can help.
English is a very hard language to learn, and it's significantly harder to learn a second language after you're 15 if you only know one language. And it only gets worse as it goes farther. Most people can't even learn a second language if they only only know one by the time they're an adult.
Well why should people have to learn another language to aid those different? Coming to this country implies that you need to fucking learn some of it. My mom somehow did it, and my dad is trying his best. The last thing I should hear when working is "Do you speak Spanish?", it should not be the first thing.
If they learned their English, that's their choice. Having to learn another language shouldn't be forced on anyone. And many of these immigrants could be trying to learn English for all you know. It takes a long time before you're really confident enough in a language to speak it in public. Like, I have a Greek cousin who can speak English fluently, but she just speaks in Greek almost all the time because she's still nervous about speaking English despite the fact that she can speak it better than many English speakers in the US.
To be honest, it should be forced, what's the point of an official language if it's going to be overtaken by another one? It's fine if you're a tourist visiting here, but living here? The Southwest is slowly becoming more Spanish speaking this and that. There are classes to help people speak a language, and I believe that people should learn the language of a place they're going to live in as a requirement before living in said country.

America is a melting pot the legal immigrants have to know some english in order to pass the citizenship treat. You can't ban them from speaking their native language to each other. Nazi.


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Why are Americans so frightened of learning another language?
Who says they're frightened?
The people are coming into a country with different customs. Nobody should be bending over for them; they should learn the primary language of the country they're living in.