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California Smoking Age to go from 18 -> 21

 
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-jerry-brown-smoking-bills-20160504-story.html

^ rather straightforward story, i don't think i need to post an excerpt

one thing is clear: degenerates gonna degenerate; this will not change anything

but on principle, how do you feel about this

 
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Better than Australia's policy of 'We'll just tax it knowing full well nobody will stop.'

I hope support for quitting smokers is increasing with this new law too.

 
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You can kill for your country before you can smoke...

 
 
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Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:47:42 AM
You can kill for your country before you can smoke...
This meme needs to die.

If you're in the military, at least you have some semblance of a cause.

Smokers have no cause for what they do to themselves. It's unjustifiable in every way.

 
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Quote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2016, 02:53:21 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:47:42 AM
You can kill for your country before you can smoke...
This meme needs to die.

If you're in the military, at least you have some semblance of a cause.

Smokers have no cause for what they do to themselves. It's unjustifiable in every way.
People smoke to release stress/relax. There is no problem with that, people know the risks.
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.

 
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Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2016, 02:53:21 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:47:42 AM
You can kill for your country before you can smoke...
This meme needs to die.

If you're in the military, at least you have some semblance of a cause.

Smokers have no cause for what they do to themselves. It's unjustifiable in every way.
People smoke to release stress/relax. There is no problem with that, people know the risks.
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.
In the beginning it may give users a sense of relaxation, but that wears off quickly to the point where you are only smoking to prevent withdrawal symptoms. Using an addictive stimulant is just going to lead to a state of dependency where the only way to de-stress is to smoke. Besides, there are much healthier ways of relaxing and releasing stress.
Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 04:22:26 AM by Dan

 
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This is good.

 
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours

but can they vape??

 
 
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I'm just happy that the number of smokers keeps going down

 
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Has raising the minimum age ever actually worked at reducing consumption?  Like alcohol, kids just pay someone older to buy it for them legally.

 
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ayy lmao
>smoking makes you a degenerate


 
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I'm neutral to this, but I'd prefer the recreational sale of cigarettes to be banned entirely someday.

 
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For the most part I'm with Turkey.
Though I don't like the part of the bill that further labels vapes as tobacco products. Not that I enjoy being around cloud heads, but I think the feds and various state governments are going on with plans of regulating it all wronglike.

 
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Quote from: rc on May 05, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
>smoking makes you a degenerate
Fucking hell yes it does.

 
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Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.

You're a fucking pussy.

OT: I don't smoke (other than the occasional cigar), but I really have no problem with them raising it. Maybe cause I'm over 21 and don't really care, idk. Smoking age has always been 19 here in jersey but that never stopped anyone. So I doubt it will in Cali.

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>Smoking either way

 
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Quote from: HollowedTurkey on May 05, 2016, 08:37:18 AM
I'm neutral to this, but I'd prefer the recreational sale of cigarettes to be banned entirely someday.

I'd love to know what could be considered a "medicinal" use for normal cigarettes.

Still, this is a good thing. I can't think of any reason why people smoke them in the first place, not like there's any health benefits or mind-altering enjoyment coming out of them.

 
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Quote from: PsygnI on May 05, 2016, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: HollowedTurkey on May 05, 2016, 08:37:18 AM
I'm neutral to this, but I'd prefer the recreational sale of cigarettes to be banned entirely someday.

I'd love to know what could be considered a "medicinal" use for normal cigarettes.

Still, this is a good thing. I can't think of any reason why people smoke them in the first place, not like there's any health benefits or mind-altering enjoyment coming out of them.

Medicinal usage would be to wean addicts off post-regulation, like in a methadone clinic. I wouldn't even go so far as to ban tobacco, but cigarettes ought to go.

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Quote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2016, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: rc on May 05, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
>smoking makes you a degenerate
Fucking hell yes it does.
I'm wholeheartedly against smoking cigarettes, but why do you think pushing the word "Degenerate" onto everyone who engages in smoking, drinking, or any sort of recreational substances is smart? Do you think that the people involved in these things are irredeemable scumbags who can do no right?

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Quote from: Dan on May 05, 2016, 04:20:43 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2016, 02:53:21 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:47:42 AM
You can kill for your country before you can smoke...
This meme needs to die.

If you're in the military, at least you have some semblance of a cause.

Smokers have no cause for what they do to themselves. It's unjustifiable in every way.
People smoke to release stress/relax. There is no problem with that, people know the risks.
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.
In the beginning it may give users a sense of relaxation, but that wears off quickly to the point where you are only smoking to prevent withdrawal symptoms. Using an addictive stimulant is just going to lead to a state of dependency where the only way to de-stress is to smoke. Besides, there are much healthier ways of relaxing and releasing stress.
Yet common people obviously can't be bothered to find/deal with healthier ways of releasing stress.

 
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Quote from: PSU on May 05, 2016, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.

You're a fucking pussy.

It's called being intelligent, and not wasting your life fighting for petty causes.

 
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Quote from: challengerX on May 05, 2016, 05:36:17 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2016, 02:53:21 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:47:42 AM
You can kill for your country before you can smoke...
This meme needs to die.

If you're in the military, at least you have some semblance of a cause.

Smokers have no cause for what they do to themselves. It's unjustifiable in every way.
People smoke to release stress/relax. There is no problem with that, people know the risks.
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.
Chally should Shut the fuck up...

 
 
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Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: PSU on May 05, 2016, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.

You're a fucking pussy.

It's called being intelligent, and not wasting your life fighting for petty causes.
lol

 
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Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: PSU on May 05, 2016, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Blade on May 05, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
If you're in the military, then the person is just a narrow minded nationalist, or poor.

You're a fucking pussy.

It's called being intelligent, and not wasting your life fighting for petty causes.

No it's called you're a fucking pussy and less of a man because of it.

 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Smoking here really isn't that widespread of a problem though...

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
What bothers me about this is that I only heard of this a few weeks ago and now it's a law.
Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 02:21:13 PM by Varg

 
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