House Speaker John Boehner’s annoyance with President Barack Obama is turning into a grudge match against the Constitution.Boehner’s decision to invite a foreign head of government to address Congress without first consulting the sitting president has no precedent in American history. And for a simple reason. It’s unconstitutional.Boehner (R-Ohio) fully admits that his failure to communicate with the White House was not an oversight. Like a schoolboy passing notes when the teacher turns to the blackboard, he sneaked behind Obama’s back to set the date for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech with his country’s ambassador to the United States. Boehner asked the foreign dignitary not to tell the U.S. president.“I wanted to make sure,” Boehner later explained on Fox News, “there was no interference.” Netanyahu is now scheduled to address a joint session of Congress on March 3.This is unheard of in U.S. history. American Congresses have sometimes rejected a president’s foreign policy, of course. That is within their rights.Though the president has the power to negotiate agreements with foreign countries, the Senate can reject or approve them. President Woodrow Wilson, for example, journeyed to Paris in 1919 to negotiate the Treaty of Versailles after World War One. Wilson was instrumental in writing the treaty, particularly those sections that created a new institution, the League of Nations, to provide collective security.
Can we sue him now?
Compared to Obama's unconstitutional actions, this is pretty low on the list for things to be up in arms about.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 09, 2015, 03:20:15 AMCompared to Obama's unconstitutional actions, this is pretty low on the list for things to be up in arms about.If Obama's actions are so visibly unconstitutional to the layman, how is he still president?
Quote from: Mad Max on March 09, 2015, 10:34:21 AMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 09, 2015, 03:20:15 AMCompared to Obama's unconstitutional actions, this is pretty low on the list for things to be up in arms about.If Obama's actions are so visibly unconstitutional to the layman, how is he still president?Because impeachment requires a legislature which isn't also fucking shitty.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 09, 2015, 11:21:59 AMQuote from: Mad Max on March 09, 2015, 10:34:21 AMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 09, 2015, 03:20:15 AMCompared to Obama's unconstitutional actions, this is pretty low on the list for things to be up in arms about.If Obama's actions are so visibly unconstitutional to the layman, how is he still president?Because impeachment requires a legislature which isn't also fucking shitty.While true, even a shitty legislature can see compelling evidence that the president's acts are unconstitutional. There's nothing to lose from the impeachment process, so they should have done it long ago at this point.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 09, 2015, 11:35:39 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 09, 2015, 11:21:59 AMQuote from: Mad Max on March 09, 2015, 10:34:21 AMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 09, 2015, 03:20:15 AMCompared to Obama's unconstitutional actions, this is pretty low on the list for things to be up in arms about.If Obama's actions are so visibly unconstitutional to the layman, how is he still president?Because impeachment requires a legislature which isn't also fucking shitty.While true, even a shitty legislature can see compelling evidence that the president's acts are unconstitutional. There's nothing to lose from the impeachment process, so they should have done it long ago at this point.Obama's impeachment = President BidenNo Republican wants that.
Quote from: Kupo on March 11, 2015, 12:21:59 AM129,706 signatures on the petition as of this post, now the White House is obligated to respondPopcorn time The US gov't really should be trying to win over the Iranians.It can only be good for the US if the Shia nations and Sunni nations are competing for support. Play them against each other to get the best results for America.
129,706 signatures on the petition as of this post, now the White House is obligated to respondPopcorn time
The US gov't really should be trying to win over the Iranians.It can only be good for the US if the Shia nations and Sunni nations are competing for support. Play them against each other to get the best results for America.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 11, 2015, 01:16:29 PMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 11, 2015, 12:37:07 AMThe US gov't really should be trying to win over the Iranians.It can only be good for the US if the Shia nations and Sunni nations are competing for support. Play them against each other to get the best results for America.I'm sorry, when did you start to believe that fundamentalist Muslims are rational actors? Iran is a rogue state.Iran is no less rational than the Saudis, and the US government is always happy to keep it's mouth shut whenever their human rights violatians cause international outcry.I'm with you on not trusting crazy theocrats, but there's only like two countries in the region NOT run by crazy theocrats, one of which is a monarchy.
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 11, 2015, 12:37:07 AMThe US gov't really should be trying to win over the Iranians.It can only be good for the US if the Shia nations and Sunni nations are competing for support. Play them against each other to get the best results for America.I'm sorry, when did you start to believe that fundamentalist Muslims are rational actors? Iran is a rogue state.
Boehner's invite to Netanyahu is unconstitutional
