Big Brother Trump is a strong case for nerfing the executive branch

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Before it's too late.

(I'm too tired to write up a lengthy intro to these pieces so I'll just post them with a tl;dr.)

1) Trump will inherit the executive branch at the peak of its power. Democrats' foreign policy 180 under Obama can be thanked for that.

Spoiler

2) The USG's expansive national surveillance complex is largely guided not by laws, but by policies. To elaborate: law is what the government is forced to do; policy is what the government chooses to do. Policy is the only thing preventing rampant, unchecked abuses of these powers.

Here's snippets of what Snowden warned about, for context:

YouTube

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And now the article:
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Last Edit: November 11, 2016, 08:56:07 PM by Kupo & the Two G-strings


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Jesus. There's something going on here behind the scenes. The most radical Presidential candidate in recent memory gets elected at the precise time where he would have the most unchecked power.


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Nah but it was totally cool when the corrupt people who like abortion and gay marriage had that power!

Fucking ridiculous overreaction coming out of the butthurt battalion.
But it wasn't 'cool'. The first article I linked is entirely about this.

Please elaborate how concerns of unprecedented, unchecked executive powers is an 'overreaction'. Furthermore, Greenwald's complained about this kind of stuff long before Trump ever ran for office.

The only thing ridiculous here is your idiotic post. For the sake of everyone here, stop killing our brain cells.

. The most radical Presidential candidate in recent memory
There is nothing radical about Donald Trump. He's the most centrist figure in American politics since Bill Clinton was in power. He just says mean things about people he dislikes.
Executing whistleblowers, banning encryption, banning an entire class of people based solely on their religion, going after terrorists' (likely innocent) families, banning press from events, and accusing Mexico of a state-sanctioned effort to undermine our country through our immigration system are the exact opposite of """"moderation""""

You're the one who thinks Russia should undermine sovereign democratic elections, so your definition of "radicalism" should be taken with a grain of salt.
Last Edit: November 11, 2016, 10:36:26 PM by Kupo & the Two G-strings


 
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. The most radical Presidential candidate in recent memory
There is nothing radical about Donald Trump. He's the most centrist figure in American politics since Bill Clinton was in power. He just says mean things about people he dislikes.
Eh, I'd say he swings left on some things h- nah. You know what, you're accurate.


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Oh yeah, now we wanna nerf the presidency. I've only been saying that FDR's gross expansion of presidential power was a mistake for the past ten years...


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Oh yeah, now we wanna nerf the presidency. I've only been saying that FDR's gross expansion of presidential power was a mistake for the past ten years...

Tfw you trick liberals into favoring small government by electing Trump


 
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It's so disheartening how some people can go from ardently anti-Trump to full-blown Trump apologist over a few days.
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Oh yeah, now we wanna nerf the presidency. I've only been saying that FDR's gross expansion of presidential power was a mistake for the past ten years...

Tfw you trick liberals into favoring small government by electing Trump
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We're obligated to at least give him a chance.
Never.


 
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Why is anyone obligated to give him a "chance"

He does bad, fuck him. He does good, great. There's no such thing as "chances" here.
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Why is any one obligated to give him a "chance"

He does bad, fuck him. He does good, great. There's no such thing as "chances" here.
You don't get to throw a temper tantrum just because your candidate didn't win. That's not how democracy works.
It's how free speech works, though.


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Why is any one obligated to give him a "chance"

He does bad, fuck him. He does good, great. There's no such thing as "chances" here.
The man hasn't even been sworn into office yet. You don't get to throw a temper tantrum just because your candidate didn't win. That's not how democracy works. Give the man a chance to actually fuck up first before you protest, otherwise you risk Civil War 2: Asshurt Liberal Boogaloo, and NOBODY wants that.

I do.


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law is what the government is forced to do; policy is what the government chooses to do.

I would largely argue this line


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You don't get to throw a temper tantrum just because your candidate didn't win.
How many times to I have to explain to you alt right queerbags that people are angry because you guys voted in an incompetent lunatic?

It has nothing to do with losing. If somebody like Bush won I'd say "oh great another dumbass". But Trump? This guy is the fucking opposite of what America is. The fact that you guys have been duped by his smooth talk doesn't mean we have been and that we should "give him a chance".
"IT'S ONLY DEMOCRACY WHEN I WIN!!!"

Fuck off.
that's not what he's getting at

he knows that he got fair-and-square democratically elected. what he's mad about is how enough people were swayed by his bullshit rhetoric to get him that far.
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