Hoover, the Republican President who sat by and let the collapse happen
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 15, 2015, 02:46:25 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 15, 2015, 11:32:21 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 15, 2015, 11:24:09 AMOf the current candidates, his ideas are the least impractical. Everyone agrees America is broken. Our system pools resources in the hands of the very few, and those with the means have demonstrated that they do not have the general population's best interest at heart. Industrialists up until the early 80's counted themselves as Americans first. That isn't the case. Main St America has suffered because of this. Bernie may not have the ideal solutions, but at least he's going in the right direction.lolNigga you need those "industrialists", their tax dollars actually fund shit.And if they're not Americans first anymore, good luck keeping them around once the soaking starts.They're not staying now. You seem to be living under the impression they aren't already shipping jobs overseas and dodging their taxes.And you think the solution is to demand they stay while also making conditions less favorable than they already are?
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 15, 2015, 11:32:21 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 15, 2015, 11:24:09 AMOf the current candidates, his ideas are the least impractical. Everyone agrees America is broken. Our system pools resources in the hands of the very few, and those with the means have demonstrated that they do not have the general population's best interest at heart. Industrialists up until the early 80's counted themselves as Americans first. That isn't the case. Main St America has suffered because of this. Bernie may not have the ideal solutions, but at least he's going in the right direction.lolNigga you need those "industrialists", their tax dollars actually fund shit.And if they're not Americans first anymore, good luck keeping them around once the soaking starts.They're not staying now. You seem to be living under the impression they aren't already shipping jobs overseas and dodging their taxes.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 15, 2015, 11:24:09 AMOf the current candidates, his ideas are the least impractical. Everyone agrees America is broken. Our system pools resources in the hands of the very few, and those with the means have demonstrated that they do not have the general population's best interest at heart. Industrialists up until the early 80's counted themselves as Americans first. That isn't the case. Main St America has suffered because of this. Bernie may not have the ideal solutions, but at least he's going in the right direction.lolNigga you need those "industrialists", their tax dollars actually fund shit.And if they're not Americans first anymore, good luck keeping them around once the soaking starts.
Of the current candidates, his ideas are the least impractical. Everyone agrees America is broken. Our system pools resources in the hands of the very few, and those with the means have demonstrated that they do not have the general population's best interest at heart. Industrialists up until the early 80's counted themselves as Americans first. That isn't the case. Main St America has suffered because of this. Bernie may not have the ideal solutions, but at least he's going in the right direction.
Simple idea: if you offshore your HQ to dodge taxes, and offshore your manufacturing, you have to pay a high tariff to import your goods into the US. At that point you aren't an American company anymore. Bring in jobs or tax revenue.
Just the fact that he's been consistent on almost all of his views for the entire time that he's been a politician should show you a lot.
Quote from: The Dude on October 15, 2015, 06:30:15 PMJust the fact that he's been consistent on almost all of his views for the entire time that he's been a politician should show you a lot.What about being consistently shit is admirable?
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 15, 2015, 05:21:00 PMSimple idea: if you offshore your HQ to dodge taxes, and offshore your manufacturing, you have to pay a high tariff to import your goods into the US. At that point you aren't an American company anymore. Bring in jobs or tax revenue.Helpful hint: if you have a "simple idea" about economics it's probably wrong. >corporation taxes are bad, and reduce the welfare of working individuals>outsourcing really, really isn't an issue with the exception of short-run labour disruption >there is consensus in economics on tariffs (including the two above, too, actually) and it's that they fucking suck. They just hurt the consumer
The consumer can only afford the goods if they have a job that pays a living wage.
And the tariffs only come into play if they offshore the jobs and taxes.
Aside from his economic policies you so vehemently oppose, what other policies of his are "constantly shit"?
Quote from: Meta as Fuck on October 15, 2015, 06:36:50 PMQuote from: The Dude on October 15, 2015, 06:30:15 PMJust the fact that he's been consistent on almost all of his views for the entire time that he's been a politician should show you a lot.What about being consistently shit is admirable?Aside from his economic policies you so vehemently oppose, what other policies of his are "constantly shit"?
Quote from: Meta as Fuck on October 15, 2015, 05:11:59 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 15, 2015, 11:58:24 AM1. Alexander Hamilton2. KeynesDude.Don't Tread On Me™
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 15, 2015, 11:58:24 AM1. Alexander Hamilton2. KeynesDude.
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