And they're both economically illiterate morons. Brilliant.

and by "him" i'm referring to any "underdog" candidate, not just bernie

it just irritates me when people say stuff like that
a lot

Quote from: Verbatim on July 06, 2015, 03:19:15 PM

and by "him" i'm referring to any "underdog" candidate, not just bernie

it just irritates me when people say stuff like that
a lot

i've considered registering Dem so I can vote bernie

Not out of any love for Bernie, I just want to vote against Clinton.

Please do. We need all the help we can get.

Except Ron Paul is a wacko nutjob who doesn't believe in evolution.

Eh, Bernie has his fair share of whacko positions.

Although Ronnie probably takes the cake there. AFAIK, he's also been screaming about hyperinflation since as far back as the 80s. Rand Paul isn't much better either, and I have no idea how people can tolerate the guy. Both Pauls are fucking nuts.

Because it is.

Didn't you just say I wouldn't catch you talking about things you don't know about? In that case, please demonstrate your understanding of economics to me. . .

Because I'll wager I can demonstrate socialism is a bad idea to a higher degree than you can demonstrate it as a good idea.

>implying only one way to run a country is the right way

Well, no I didn't. But given your routine lack of nuance I can see how you'd think of capitalism as "one way" and socialism as "another". Although I could see how a single nuanced way could empirically be the "best" way of running a country.

But yeah, the evidence we have, both theoretical and empirical, is quite strongly against socialism as a workable economic structure. Hell, Sanders isn't even a socialist. All I see him saying is "I'll raise taxes on the rich and stop outsourcing jobs"; nothing about a labour-run economy. The guy's just a populist who's adopted an ill-fitting label.

Quote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 03:32:59 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 06, 2015, 03:31:14 PM

Mad Max is the embarrassment of humanity.

HE THINKS DIFFERENT THINGS THEREFOR HE'S THE WORST

You seem to not understand that being "different" doesn't mean "qualitatively equal".

let me rephrase

HE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE SO HE'S THE WORST

Quote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 03:29:40 PM

>implying only one way to run a country is the right way

Well, no I didn't. But given your routine lack of nuance I can see how you'd think of capitalism as "one way" and socialism as "another". Although I could see how a single nuanced way could empirically be the "best" way of running a country.

But yeah, the evidence we have, both theoretical and empirical, is quite strongly against socialism as a workable economic structure. Hell, Sanders isn't even a socialist. All I see him saying is "I'll raise taxes on the rich and stop outsourcing jobs"; nothing about a labour-run economy. The guy's just a populist who's adopted an ill-fitting label.

Maybe I like the shit he supports and I trust him to carry those positions into the white house, unlike other candidates who change their positions when its popular

But yeah, the evidence we have, both theoretical and empirical, is quite strongly against socialism as a workable economic structure. Hell, Sanders isn't even a socialist. All I see him saying is "I'll raise taxes on the rich and stop outsourcing jobs"; nothing about a labour-run economy. The guy's just a populist who's adopted an ill-fitting label.

i don't see anything wrong with that, considering that if he were to adopt heavy socialist policy into his platform, and reform the entire economy, he's not gonna win much support at all

it would be like if i were to run and started implementing anti-natalist policy, like, "a bill to make illegal all methods of procreation"--it would be stupid

i'd have to take baby steps

i'd have to take baby steps

Sure, but I've seen zero evidence which suggests Sanders is actually a socialist. He's more like a social democrat.

Quote from: Verbatim on July 06, 2015, 03:37:01 PM

i'd have to take baby steps

Sure, but I've seen zero evidence which suggests Sanders is actually a socialist. He's more like a social democrat.

good luck differentiating it for the media and general public. the GOP has run a great campaign against the word 'socialism' to the point where people are afraid of it in all of its forms.

Quote from: Mad Max on July 06, 2015, 03:32:59 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 06, 2015, 03:31:14 PM

Mad Max is the embarrassment of humanity.

HE THINKS DIFFERENT THINGS THEREFOR HE'S THE WORST

wow

such logic

You cry about bigotry all day, but you're a racist yourself.

oh right, i forgot that acknowledging that racism is a thing makes me racist.

that's some sound fucking logic right there.