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Except one branch of technology isn't inherently better than the other.
While this is an exceptionally weak response (some forms of technology are empirically more beneficial when developed), my point was about the technology sector against other sectors, like construction.

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Employers literally couldn't care less about their employees
I wish you would stop ignoring the fact that unions are literally lobbying the government for unfair legislation to benefit them. This is principally equivalent to the Koch Brothers lobbying for laxer environmental regulations. It is an unnecessary imposition of cost of other people for no reason other than self-interest. These unions are literally being greedy.

But that's okay to you, because you're so blinded by corporation hatred that you think it's acceptable for some workers to get absolutely fucked up the arse simply because they were too stupid to disagree with you--or find themselves in a sector with low-density unionisation, for reasons out of their control. Here's a solution: why don't we argue in favour of legislation to benefit all workers? Instead of allowing unions to get away with despicable shit like this because they're following the One True Path.

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Not joining a union is willingly letting the necessary greed of corporations have it's way with you.
This is only really true in lower-skilled labour markets. High-productivity firms, especially firms involved in technology, are highly competitive in terms of attracting labour so long as the government effectively prevents them from establishing a cartel. What I'm arguing for is that unions ought to meet the same principles and standards we hold corporations to.
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It's 2016.

Legit fuck anyone who uses "it's 2016" as a reason for anything.

It's fucking 2016 guys. We need to stop saying "it's 2016" for everything.


 
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I don't see the issue.


 
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It's 2016.

Legit fuck anyone who uses "it's 2016" as a reason for anything.

It's fucking 2016 guys. We need to stop saying "it's 2016" for everything.
It is a legitimate reason, though.

There are many beliefs out there that are simply incompatible with anything called "modern civilization", and there's nothing wrong with pointing that out. There's nothing wrong with saying, "Wow, that's a really antiquated viewpoint right there." Nothing.

This anti-"current year" meme is worse than the "current year" meme itself.
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I don't see the issue.
You really don't see the issue with unions shafting non-union labour?

Its cronyism, just not a corporation doing it.


 
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You really don't see the issue with unions shafting non-union labour?

Its cronyism, just not a corporation doing it.
Class pretty much summed up my thoughts on this reasonably well.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Class pretty much summed up my thoughts on this reasonably well.
In that case, given your agreement, I'm sure you have reasonable counterpoints to my perfectly relevant objections.


 
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Class pretty much summed up my thoughts on this reasonably well.
In that case, given your agreement, I'm sure you have reasonable counterpoints to my perfectly relevant objections.
When it's not 2:00 in the morning, I'll look your responses over.


 
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Haha sick meme bro!! You're totally hip and happening
Argumentum ad novitatem is a shit fallacy pham
where did he make that fallacy

all he did was state the current year, specifically in reference to something's perceived antiquity
which is the same thing as stating, "i think your outlook is outdated"

and so what

maybe your beliefs are outdated--have you considered that

there is nothing fallacious about stating the current year to make a point about antiquity
it never ceases to amuse me how much you conservatives are triggered by that
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
which is the same thing as stating, "i think your outlook is outdated"

I'm pretty sure Mordo's whole point is that this really isn't an interesting thing to say in any kind of discussion about policy or values. So he thinks his view is outdated. . . So what? He doesn't elucidate why, and thus offers no justification. Saying "Your view is outdated because X" is different to just asserting "Your view is outdated".

EDIT: Looked back. In fairness, Class did give justification for his assertion.
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Because stating something is outdated without reasoning is pointless. At least Meme Man Oliver kinda eludes as to why something is outdated in CURRENT YEAR. If you can't bring arguments with your statement about the date, there's no point, you're just pointing out how IT'S 2016 GUYS!

it never ceases to amuse me how much you conservatives are triggered by that


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It's 2016.

Legit fuck anyone who uses "it's 2016" as a reason for anything.

It's fucking 2016 guys. We need to stop saying "it's 2016" for everything.
There are many beliefs out there that are simply incompatible with anything called "modern civilization"
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