Bernie Sanders' price tag? $18 trillion over a decade

 
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WASHINGTON—Sen. Bernie Sanders, whose liberal call to action has propelled his long-shot presidential campaign, is proposing an array of new programs that would amount to the largest peacetime expansion of government in modern American history.

In all, he backs at least $18 trillion in new spending over a decade, according to a tally by The Wall Street Journal, a sum that alarms conservatives and gives even many Democrats pause. Mr. Sanders sees the money as going to essential government services at a time of increasing strain on the middle class.

His agenda includes an estimated $15 trillion for a government-run health-care program that covers every American, plus large sums to rebuild roads and bridges, expand Social Security and make tuition free at public colleges.

To pay for it, Mr. Sanders, a Vermont independent running for the Democratic nomination, has so far detailed tax increases that could bring in as much as $6.5 trillion over 10 years, according to his staff.

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A campaign aide said additional tax proposals would be offered to offset the cost of some, and possibly all, of his health program. A Democratic proposal for such a “single-payer” health plan, now in Congress, would be funded in part through a new payroll tax on employers and workers, with the trade-off being that employers would no longer have to pay for or arrange their workers’ insurance.

Mr. Sanders declined a request for an interview. His campaign referred questions to Warren Gunnels, his policy director, who said the programs would address an array of problems. “Sen. Sanders’s agenda does cost money,” he said. “If you look at the problems that are out there, it’s very reasonable.”

Calling himself a democratic socialist, Mr. Sanders has long stood to the left of the Democratic Party, and at first he was dismissed as little more than a liberal gadfly to the party’s front-runner, Hillary Clinton. But he is ahead of or tied with the former secretary of state in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, and he has gained in national polling. He stands as her most serious challenger for the Democratic nomination.

Mr. Sanders has filled arenas with thousands of supporters, where he thunders an unabashedly liberal agenda to tackle pervasive economic inequality through more government services, higher taxes on the wealthy and new constraints on banks and corporations.

“One of the demands of my campaign is that we think big and not small,” he said in a recent speech to the Democratic National Committee.

Enacting his program would be difficult, if not impossible, given that Republican control of the House appears secure for the foreseeable future. Some of his program would be too liberal for even some centrist Democrats. Still, his agenda articulates the goals of many liberals and is exerting a leftward pressure on the party’s 2016 field.

The Sanders program amounts to increasing total federal spending by about one-third—to a projected $68 trillion or so over 10 years.

For many years, government spending has equaled about 20% of gross domestic product annually; his proposals would increase that to about 30% in their first year. As a share of the economy, that would represent a bigger increase in government spending than the New Deal or Great Society and is surpassed in modern history only by the World War II military buildup.

By way of comparison, the 2009 economic stimulus program was estimated at $787 billion when it passed Congress, and President George W. Bush’s 2001 tax cuts were estimated to cost the federal treasury $1.35 trillion over 10 years.

Mrs. Clinton so far has proposed programs that together would cost an estimated $650 billion over 10 years. Her college-affordability plan is estimated at $350 billion over 10 years, and an expected child-care proposal is estimated to cost at least $200 billion. Those are modest sums next to Mr. Sanders’s agenda.

He proposes $1 trillion to repair roads, bridges and airports. His college-affordability program would cost $750 billion over a decade. Smaller programs would provide youth jobs and prevent cuts to private pension plans. He would raise an additional $1.2 trillion in Social Security taxes in order to increase benefits and pay those already promised for 50 years. That would bolster the program but fall short of the 75 years of solvency that is typically what policy makers aim to achieve.

Mr. Sanders says he also would propose an expansion of federal support for child care and preschool, though he hasn’t said how much those programs would cost, and they aren’t included in this total.

His most expensive proposal, by far, is his plan to extend Medicare, the federal health program for seniors, to all Americans.

Mr. Sanders hasn’t released a detailed plan, but a similar proposal in Congress, sponsored by Rep. John Conyers (D., Mich.), would require $15 trillion in federal spending over 10 years, on top of existing federal health spending, according to an analysis of the plan by Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Mr. Conyers’s office referred questions about the plan to Mr. Friedman.

Mr. Gunnels, the Sanders aide, said the campaign hasn’t worked out all details on his plan—for instance, his version might allow each state to run its own single-payer system. But he said the $15 trillion figure was a fair estimate.

Single-payer health care has long been on the liberal wish list, but it has never had sufficient support in Congress. Proponents say it is the best way to guarantee coverage to every American—something that the Affordable Care Act falls short of—and lower overall costs.

The Conyers plan, for instance, assumes significant savings by allowing the government to negotiate for prescription-drug prices, and it would rely on the new payroll taxes for funding.

Mr. Sanders and some Democrats see the 2010 health law as a good first step, but they say more needs to be done. Many other Democrats, scarred from the fight over the ACA and seeing it as a major step forward, are ready to move on to other issues.

So far, the tax increases Mr. Sanders has proposed are concentrated on Americans earning at least $250,000 a year and on corporations. They include increases in the capital-gains tax, the estate tax and personal income-tax rates for the wealthiest Americans. He also would impose a fee on financial transactions, with investment companies taxed on every stock they trade.

Taken together, these proposals are attractive to many Democrats, said Jared Bernstein, an economist at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, and would transform the U.S. into an economy much more like those in Europe, with a significantly larger share of economic activity in government hands. “It’s not the model we employ [in the U.S.], but it is a viable economic model,” he said. Still, he cautioned the revenue would have to come from the middle class as well as the wealthy.

More-centrist Democrats think it is a bad idea. “We are not a country that has limitless resources. You need to tamp on the brakes somewhere, but he doesn’t,” said Jim Kessler, senior vice president for policy at the Democratic think tank Third Way. “There’s no such thing as free college; somebody is going to be paying for it.”

Conservative economists say higher government spending would hurt long-term economic growth and that this much would stunt it altogether. “If we’re putting our resources into government, that’s a place where you’re not going to get productivity gains,” said Kevin Hassett, an American Enterprise Institute analyst who has advised many GOP presidential candidates but is unaffiliated this year. Mr. Hassett said the tax increases required to pay for the Sanders program would be “massively catastrophic.”

Even many Democrats say such a plan would be politically infeasible. Austan Goolsbee, an economist at the University of Chicago and former adviser to President Barack Obama, recalled the difficulty winning congressional approval for the stimulus and health legislation at a time of large Democratic majorities in Congress.

“Much, much more modest actions than those Bernie Sanders is describing were extremely heavy lifts, and many thought impossible,” he said. “Both of them came down to a single vote.”


And this guy isn't a fucking lunatic?


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His most expensive proposal, by far, is his plan to extend Medicare, the federal health program for seniors, to all Americans.

Mr. Sanders hasn’t released a detailed plan, but a similar proposal in Congress, sponsored by Rep. John Conyers (D., Mich.), would require $15 trillion in federal spending over 10 years, on top of existing federal health spending, according to an analysis of the plan by Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Mr. Conyers’s office referred questions about the plan to Mr. Friedman.

Mr. Gunnels, the Sanders aide, said the campaign hasn’t worked out all details on his plan—for instance, his version might allow each state to run its own single-payer system. But he said the $15 trillion figure was a fair estimate.
Yeah... That's... Not worth it at all...

I like his ambition, but like... Holy shit.
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Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.
That's funny, I go to Umass Amherst.

Could probably find this guy really easily if I wanted to and talk to him.


 
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You're just mad, meta, that he's gonna save our country, putting us even further ahead of you shit-mouthed tea-guzzlers.


 
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Well. The states are already in massive debt that they'll never pay off anyway. Just about every country is, really.

He could shoot more meaningless sums of numbers into a meaningless debt account for all I care.

I always liked watching fireworks.


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HOLY SHIT

How can people take this guy seriously? Sanders supporters are certified retards if they stick with his agenda despite this.


 
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HOLY SHIT

How can people take this guy seriously? Sanders supporters are certified retards if they stick with his agenda despite this.

The same way they can take Trump seriously.


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Yeah no let's focus on paying off the debt rather than adding on to it


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Whyyyy, Bernie?


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Remind me again, why do people support this guy?


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Remind me again, why do people support this guy?
he has a brilliant viral marketing campaign

It's not hard to get votes if all you do is start promising to give people free stuff paid for by the boogeyman.

It's the age old shuffle and dance!

Politicians telling people what they want to hear.


 
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Remind me again, why do people support this guy?
he has a brilliant viral marketing campaign

It's not hard to get votes if all you do is start promising to give people free stuff paid for by the boogeyman.

Vermin Supreme started it.


 
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Remind me again, why do people support this guy?
he has a brilliant viral marketing campaign

It's not hard to get votes if all you do is start promising to give people free stuff paid for by the boogeyman.

Vermin Supreme started it.
Yeah but his pony based economy model makes more sense than Bernie's ideologies.


 
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Well. The states are already in massive debt that they'll never pay off anyway. Just about every country is, really.
Credit is how the economy runs. You don't say a homeless man is richer than a college grad because the homeless man has 0 net worth while the college student is in debt.


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HOLY SHIT

How can people take this guy seriously? Sanders supporters are certified retards if they stick with his agenda despite this.
College students are not smart people

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Yeah, a bunch of my friends are that way. According to them he's better than everyone else because he's going to make college affordable, etc. and they don't know how he's going to do it, but that's fine because he seems like a nice guy.

It's pretty sad tbh.


 
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Yeah no let's focus on paying off the debt rather than adding on to it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Problem?


 
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Yeah no let's focus on paying off the debt rather than adding on to it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Problem?
No, I just find it hilarious that you think "PAYING DA DEBT :O" is a priority.
I think it's something we should do at some point soon, but I wouldn't consider it one of the main priorities at the moment.


 
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The only thing we have to do with the debt is put it underneath our GDP again.

Even an 18trillion dollar debt means nothing if you've got a 19trillion dollar gdp.


 
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I'd vote for him if he turned out to be a serial rapist

Literally nothing would ever make me not vote for Bernie tbh


 
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