bad = wrong
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 05:03:30 PMbad = wrong"I'm going to twist the definitions of the words you're using in my favor, because I'm incapable of being honest."Bad = anything I want it to be. In this case, bad = stupid.
Or you know, a misunderstanding, but you assume everyone must think the same way you do or else they're wrong.But instead of understanding that, lol another straw man
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 05:09:47 PMOr you know, a misunderstanding, but you assume everyone must think the same way you do or else they're wrong.But instead of understanding that, lol another straw manAnd instead of defending alcohol consumption, lol another shitpost devoid of anything called an "argument"You can't demonstrate that drinking alcohol isn't stupid--so I'm going to assume that you're wrong.Also, learn what the fuck a straw man is, kid. You obviously don't know what it means.
It is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social. Like, making up for your bad people skills with alcohol is pretty dumb and says something about your capacity to talk to people.
It is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social.
You still can't prove that drinking alchohol is stupid aside from your personal feelings on the matter.
You're not wasting time if you're enjoying yourself.
I mean we might as well apply this logic to video games. It's bad for your eyes and a "waste of time".
There's nothing wrong with feeling good as long as you aren't harming others and not permanently harming yourself.
To ridicule people for drinking socially is essentially making the argument that socialization is best done devoid of any outside stimuli that could possibly affect your interactions with people.
Quote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PMIt is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social. Nobody really does this though except alcoholics, which is universally vilified. People drink socially because it gives you something to do with your friends, and at the same time makes most people more cheerful, relaxed, and open to new experiences. It provides basically the same function as any other shared activity, like a meal, a sport, a movie, etc. To ridicule people for drinking socially is essentially making the argument that socialization is best done devoid of any outside stimuli that could possibly affect your interactions with people. It's inane.
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 05:20:20 PMYou still can't prove that drinking alchohol is stupid aside from your personal feelings on the matter.Except I have. And you've yet to respond as to why I'm wrong.
Fuck self-pleasure, fuck happiness--productivity is all that matters. Fuck happiness.
Quote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PMIt is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social. Like, making up for your bad people skills with alcohol is pretty dumb and says something about your capacity to talk to people.Since alcohol makes you incoherent I doubt there's anyone that uses it to talk to people. That's like getting high to try and understand calculus.
Then why do you play video games?
More importantly, why are you being unproductive as fuck (and unhappy) arguing on the Internet?
Quote from: Septy on January 19, 2016, 05:20:55 PMQuote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PMIt is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social. Like, making up for your bad people skills with alcohol is pretty dumb and says something about your capacity to talk to people.Since alcohol makes you incoherent I doubt there's anyone that uses it to talk to people. That's like getting high to try and understand calculus.It's not even close. People get buzzed so they're more relaxed and can talk to people. That's a fact.
Quote from: Cadenza on January 19, 2016, 05:01:31 PMBecause you've assumed that everybody who reads that question will answer as though they were verbatimNo. I've assumed that everybody who reads those questions will be rational people.Because the correct question to be asking is: Why wouldn't any of those things I listed be an issue for me?That's the implication, and that's the question I'm asking YOU people. Why the fuck wouldn't it be an issue for me?
Because you've assumed that everybody who reads that question will answer as though they were verbatim
QuoteIf you're drinking alone then that's probably true, but drinking with friends/in a social situation has social benefitsIf you need those social benefits, that's a problem.You shouldn't need those social benefits. You should be social without alcohol.
If you're drinking alone then that's probably true, but drinking with friends/in a social situation has social benefits
Quote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:29:29 PMQuote from: Septy on January 19, 2016, 05:20:55 PMQuote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PMIt is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social. Like, making up for your bad people skills with alcohol is pretty dumb and says something about your capacity to talk to people.Since alcohol makes you incoherent I doubt there's anyone that uses it to talk to people. That's like getting high to try and understand calculus.It's not even close. People get buzzed so they're more relaxed and can talk to people. That's a fact.Then that person is an alcoholic.
Why'd you go on such a big kick about consent being the foundation for fun if you're just going to say fun is harmful and meaningless?
Quote from: Septy on January 19, 2016, 05:31:12 PMQuote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:29:29 PMQuote from: Septy on January 19, 2016, 05:20:55 PMQuote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PMIt is kind of pussy-ish to need to drink to be social. Like, making up for your bad people skills with alcohol is pretty dumb and says something about your capacity to talk to people.Since alcohol makes you incoherent I doubt there's anyone that uses it to talk to people. That's like getting high to try and understand calculus.It's not even close. People get buzzed so they're more relaxed and can talk to people. That's a fact.Then that person is an alcoholic.So if some guy goes to a party every like two or three weeks and drinks some beer so he can relax and feel more comfortable, he's an alcoholic?
You said there are people that need to be buzzed in order to talk to people. Therefore that person would probably be buzzed most of the time. That person is an alcoholic.
Do you see the problem yet?
Nobody said need, I'm claiming that such benefits to alcohol exist, you're claiming they don't.
Quote from: Turkey Sanders on January 19, 2016, 05:29:17 PMWhy'd you go on such a big kick about consent being the foundation for fun if you're just going to say fun is harmful and meaningless?Consent is the foundation for all human interaction--not just recreation. Unfortunately, humans are very needy creatures. We need food, clothing, shelter, oxygen, and moments where we can relax and have fun (otherwise, we'll go insane). I consider all of these things burdensome, but we still need all of it.
So why are you a hypocrite?
Just stop playing games. Stop doing anything that makes you happy.
You're not going to change anybody's mind
You recognize that fun is a necessity for survival -- a psychological mechanism to allow our body to reduce stress, recover, and socialize (and I mean that in a broad anthropological sense, not just 'talking') -- and yet you continue to say it's wrong for some reason. I know you're not one to back down especially after being coaxed throughout this entire thread, but I think you can still make a strong, cogent argument for the detrimental effects of alcohol while dropping the point that fun is wrong.
Quote from: Turkey Sanders on January 19, 2016, 05:38:29 PMYou recognize that fun is a necessity for survival -- a psychological mechanism to allow our body to reduce stress, recover, and socialize (and I mean that in a broad anthropological sense, not just 'talking') -- and yet you continue to say it's wrong for some reason. I know you're not one to back down especially after being coaxed throughout this entire thread, but I think you can still make a strong, cogent argument for the detrimental effects of alcohol while dropping the point that fun is wrong.I don't think I ever said that fun was wrong. All I said was that it's stupid. If I said it was "wrong," then I rescind.
You tend to use those words interchangeably.